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Old 06-12-2013, 01:58 PM
 
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Where are you getting those numbers?

Walmart Employs 1% Of America. Should It Be Forced To Pay Its Employees More? - Business Insider


In this area Walmart definitely doesn't pay a lot relative to the area, but in NC for instance, I had classmates in college that lived comfortably off their Walmart salary, some of them even dropping out of school because of how comfortable they were. I think Walmart probably will need to significantly increase their pay for this area, but in most areas, making nearly $12/hour is pretty decent.

I agree with Molukai too, most restaurants do not pay well either. I worked in a restaurant as a teenager, where waiters started off making $2.00/hour which of course was supplemented with tips. There are a lot of jobs out there that contribute to the poverty line. Certainly you wouldn't stop going out to eat would you?

Where are you getting your numbers from?

"A new bombshell study by the UC Berkeley Center for Labor Research and Education has found that even if Wal-Mart went to pay their American workers a minimum of $12 an hour, it would cost their average consumer, at most, only $12.49 per year.

Currently, or 66% of Wal-Mart workers – about 900,000 employees – earn less than four dollars an hour, while more than 20% earn less than $9. The study also found that, in general, Wal-Mart’s hourly workers earned about 12.4% less than retail workers as a whole.

The American taxpayer that subsidizes the profits of low-wage/benefits employers like Wal-Mart through food stamps and Medicaid. Wal-Mart’s poverty wages force employees to rely on $2.66 billion in government help every year, or about $420,000 per store. In state after state, Wal-Mart employees are the top recipients of Medicaid. As many as 80 percent of workers in Wal-Mart stores use food stamps. This costs the American taxpayer about $1 billion per year!"
http://occupydemocrats.com/new-study...why-dont-they/

BIG-BOX RETAIL:HOW A HIGHER WAGE STANDARD WOULD IMPACTWALMART WORKERS AND SHOPPERS
Ken Jacobs
UC Berkeley Center for Labor Research and Education
Dave Graham-Squire
UC Berkeley Center for Labor Research and Education
Stephanie Luce
City University of New York Murphy Institute for Worker Education and Labor Studies
April 2011
http://laborcenter.berkeley.edu/reta...policies11.pdf

The Waltons has been decreasing the number of associates it employs at Walmart and Sam's Club for a while now.

Per Bloomberg Businessweek:

“Wal-Mart Stores WMT -0.76% (WMT) has been cutting staff since the recession—and pallets of merchandise are piling up in its stockrooms as shelves go unfilled. In the past five years the world’s largest retailer added 455 U.S. Walmart stores, a 13 percent increase, according to company filings in late January. In the same period its total U.S. workforce, which includes employees at its Sam’s Club warehouse stores, dropped by about 20,000, or 1.4 percent.” The article continues, “A thinly spread workforce has other consequences: longer checkout lines, less help throughout the store, and disorganization."

Walmart Pays Workers Poorly And Sinks While Costco Pays Workers Well And Sails-Proof That You Get What You Pay For - Forbes
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Old 06-12-2013, 02:06 PM
 
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So what you're saying is that you won't go to most restaurants in the country.
I rarely eat out and I tip well when I do. Yes restaurant staff should be paid more. Everytime I hear of a restaurant chain cutting hours to avoid providing health benefits, I make sure to longer patronize their establishments. I also write the company and tell why they will longer receive my business.

The last thing this county needs is a Walmart. It brings nothing to the community but a junkie, messy store. An eyesore that reminds you that people are less important than profit.

I apologize for veering the thread off track but I hate that company and I am disgusted by the family that runs it. We will regret allowing these stores into our county.
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Old 06-12-2013, 02:11 PM
 
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I rarely eat out and I tip well when I do. Yes restaurant staff should be paid more. Everytime I hear of a restaurant chain cutting hours to avoid providing health benefits, I make sure to longer patronize their establishments. I also write the company and tell why they will longer receive my business.

The last thing this county needs is a Walmart. It brings nothing to the community but a junkie, messy store. An eyesore that reminds you that people are less important than profit.

I apologize for veering the thread off track but I hate that company and I am disgusted by the family that runs it. We will regret allowing these stores into our county.

THIS DOESN'T LOOK LIKE AN EYESORE TO ME

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Old 06-12-2013, 03:39 PM
 
Location: DMV
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Where are you getting your numbers from?

"A new bombshell study by the UC Berkeley Center for Labor Research and Education has found that even if Wal-Mart went to pay their American workers a minimum of $12 an hour, it would cost their average consumer, at most, only $12.49 per year.

Currently, or 66% of Wal-Mart workers – about 900,000 employees – earn less than four dollars an hour, while more than 20% earn less than $9. The study also found that, in general, Wal-Mart’s hourly workers earned about 12.4% less than retail workers as a whole.

The American taxpayer that subsidizes the profits of low-wage/benefits employers like Wal-Mart through food stamps and Medicaid. Wal-Mart’s poverty wages force employees to rely on $2.66 billion in government help every year, or about $420,000 per store. In state after state, Wal-Mart employees are the top recipients of Medicaid. As many as 80 percent of workers in Wal-Mart stores use food stamps. This costs the American taxpayer about $1 billion per year!"
New Study Finds Wal-Mart Could Easily Afford to Pay 12$ an Hour, So Why Don’t They?
Because a website like occupyDemocrats.com is known for reporting unbias facts right?

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Currently, or 66% of Wal-Mart workers – about 900,000 employees – earn less than four dollars an hour, while more than 20% earn less than $9.
Hello OSHA? How would they be able to give jobs to people that are under minimum wage if this was public knowledge?

This still doesn't explain where you got the 13000-14000 that you stated before. It just seemed like an exaggeration which is why I questioned it.


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BIG-BOX RETAIL:HOW A HIGHER WAGE STANDARD WOULD IMPACTWALMART WORKERS AND SHOPPERS
Ken Jacobs
UC Berkeley Center for Labor Research and Education
Dave Graham-Squire
UC Berkeley Center for Labor Research and Education
Stephanie Luce
City University of New York Murphy Institute for Worker Education and Labor Studies
April 2011
http://laborcenter.berkeley.edu/reta...policies11.pdf
This study corroborates the numbers that I stated. On page 4, it states that the average salary for a full-time associate is $11.75. I'm not sure what this article proves that wasn't already stated.

I don't disagree that they should pay more, I just think they shouldn't be singled out. There are many other companies doing similar practices.

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The Waltons has been decreasing the number of associates it employs at Walmart and Sam's Club for a while now.

Per Bloomberg Businessweek:

“Wal-Mart Stores WMT -0.76% (WMT) has been cutting staff since the recession—and pallets of merchandise are piling up in its stockrooms as shelves go unfilled. In the past five years the world’s largest retailer added 455 U.S. Walmart stores, a 13 percent increase, according to company filings in late January. In the same period its total U.S. workforce, which includes employees at its Sam’s Club warehouse stores, dropped by about 20,000, or 1.4 percent.” The article continues, “A thinly spread workforce has other consequences: longer checkout lines, less help throughout the store, and disorganization."

Walmart Pays Workers Poorly And Sinks While Costco Pays Workers Well And Sails-Proof That You Get What You Pay For - Forbes
I don't agree with it, but if that's how they make their money, that's how they do it. Can't tell them how to spend their money. There are companies across the board that are doing shady things to cut cost. At the same time, as customers we don't have to patronize their business. But let's not act like they are the only ones doing this. Do you wear Nike shoes? Levi jeans? Do you like companies that hire illegal immigrants, pay them below minimum wage? Do you like companies like Google or Facebook that didn't pay not 1 penny in taxes last year despite being billion dollar corporations? Plenty of blame to go around for the economic condition of our country.

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Old 06-12-2013, 04:05 PM
 
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The interesting thing about this debate about Wal-Mart is that all retail pays poorly in comparison to other industries so what is Wal-Mart doing that is different from other retailers. Should they be paid more? Sure. Would the average American citizen be willing to pay more for goods to offset the increase? Probably not. The other thing is that no one is forced to work at Wal-Mart and what they pay is not a secret. If you as an individual wants to make more money then do what you need to do to get a higher paying job. I did that at different points in my career and I have seen others do the same.
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:43 PM
 
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Default Prince George's County casino license won't be determined by politics, commission says

Looks like the dates for public hearing/presentation will be announced soon. The commission will be meeting on 6/25 with presentations and site visits scheduled to be completed on 7/15 (Let's get ready to rumble!!!! LOL).

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The public will get a chance to weigh in on each of the three proposals when the commission holds public hearings at which each of the three contenders — MGM Resorts International (NYSE: MGM), Penn National Gaming Inc. (NASDAQ: PENN) and Greenwood Racing Inc. — present their plans and answer questions from commission members. Fry said he expects to hold a separate public hearing for each applicant.
Prince George's County casino license won't be determined by politics, commission says - Baltimore Business Journal
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Fort Washington, MD
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All I know is the traitor Edward Snowden had only a GED but some 'community college' education on IT stuff (he actually claims in his interviews that he has no real usable skills). And yet he purportedly made $200K a year.

If you're working at Walmart, you deserve to work there.
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:46 PM
 
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If MGM doesn't get it we have proof that government is incompetent.
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:28 PM
 
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If MGM doesn't get it we have proof that government is incompetent.
Here Here.....Just looking at location, history with diversity, green initiatives, and company history....they trump the other companies/locations by a long
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Old 06-12-2013, 10:08 PM
 
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Perhaps what they are really saying is that the highest bidder (bribe) gets it.

I'm always curious what goes on with these sorts of things when so much money is involved. I've been around the world enough to know that bribes are a part of closing business deals. Though much more prevalent in other parts of the world since it is an accepted norm. In the U.S. it just happens on the DL.
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