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Old 10-19-2017, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Bowie but New Orleans born and bred
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THis project has now got some legs. Construction could start in 2019 if all the requirements are met. Of course, there's the NIMBY factor. I've read where residents in Anne Arundel and Bowie oppose it. THat makes sense because the ROW goes right through their communities.

Something tells me this is going to get built. The only question is when.

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The NIMBY factor was definitely necessary in this case. It was never clearly stated why some of the proposed routes cut through so many neighborhoods like they did. Two of the routes that would've cut through north Bowie neighborhoods, one being close to my home, and AA county neighborhoods were recently cut after many Bowie residents voiced opposition and had the support of Sen Doug Peters. Governor Hogan even paid a visit to Bowie City Hall a couple months ago and talked with the mayor and council to hear their concerns. There is still one more route that goes through north Bowie along the Amtrak/MARC lines which seems more reasonable from a Bowian perspective. However it still affects some AA county neighborhoods. I would still think either of the routes that go along the BW Parkway are the better options, especially if 295 is widened anytime soon. The work for both could be done at the same time.
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Old 10-20-2017, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Bowie but New Orleans born and bred
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Hmm, I just read this this morning. Maybe the proposed 295 routes aren't as ideal, especially the sections that are proposed to be tunnels.

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Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan (R) – taking a cue from the big splash, low information PR strategy of Elon Musk – tweeted Thursday that Musk’s Boring Company is going to build a Hyperloop tunnel from Baltimore to Washington.
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Musk, the electric car pioneer and budding tunnel builder, said this summer that he had “verbal govt approval” to build one of his super-high-speed pod-and-tube transportation systems, known as a Hyperloop, that could make the trip from New York to Washington in 29 minutes. The system would work by shooting pods in vacuum-sealed tubes at high speeds.
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The digging will start near Fort Meade, in Anne Arundel County, Mayer said. About 10 miles of tunnel will be under the state-owned portion of MD 295, the Baltimore-Washington Parkway, he said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.1df4305eaed9
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Old 10-20-2017, 07:52 AM
 
Location: It's in the name!
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Hmm, I just read this this morning. Maybe the proposed 295 routes aren't as ideal, especially the sections that are proposed to be tunnels.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.1df4305eaed9
Wait. What? Wow! So this is happening? I would think this would be bigger news than the Maglev. Like the article said, there are many questions.

ALso, I'm surprised that he's building tunnels in LA with all the active tectonic plates on the West Coast and such.

What's the point in Maglev if this is getting built? If MUsk is paying for it all, I'd go with the Hyperloop. Especially since it will be out of sight and won't face the wrath of NIMBYs.
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Old 10-20-2017, 07:57 AM
 
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Hmm, I just read this this morning. Maybe the proposed 295 routes aren't as ideal, especially the sections that are proposed to be tunnels.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.1df4305eaed9
When do they anticipate it opening? Between this and the Purple line road delays are going to be a beast
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Old 10-20-2017, 11:18 AM
 
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The NIMBY factor was definitely necessary in this case. It was never clearly stated why some of the proposed routes cut through so many neighborhoods like they did. Two of the routes that would've cut through north Bowie neighborhoods, one being close to my home, and AA county neighborhoods were recently cut after many Bowie residents voiced opposition and had the support of Sen Doug Peters. Governor Hogan even paid a visit to Bowie City Hall a couple months ago and talked with the mayor and council to hear their concerns. There is still one more route that goes through north Bowie along the Amtrak/MARC lines which seems more reasonable from a Bowian perspective. However it still affects some AA county neighborhoods. I would still think either of the routes that go along the BW Parkway are the better options, especially if 295 is widened anytime soon. The work for both could be done at the same time.
i see a lot of 'against' signs around bowie.
STOP THIS TRAIN!
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Old 10-20-2017, 11:25 AM
 
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When do they anticipate it opening? Between this and the Purple line road delays are going to be a beast
Who knows? There has been very little news about it. I suppose that since it is 100% underground, it doesn't have to pass all the regulatory red tape that an above ground system would? Also, it's privately funded. So, there are even less hoops to jump through.

I'm sure this caught everyone by surprise. They are actually starting to dig.
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Old 10-20-2017, 11:31 AM
 
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i see a lot of 'against' signs around bowie.
STOP THIS TRAIN!
Their opening statement has more questions than valid reasons to oppose it. THe widening of 295 will take homes. But I thought most of this train would be underground and the above ground portions would be elevated. Which begs the question, will it contend with the Hyperloop that is also underground and will run under 295? Wouldn't they have to rethink their ROW?
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Old 10-20-2017, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Bowie but New Orleans born and bred
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When do they anticipate it opening? Between this and the Purple line road delays are going to be a beast
I haven't seen any anticipated open date yet. The work that they've started is only for the portion of 295 between MD 175 and the Baltimore city line. They still need federal approval to tunnel underneath the federally owned stretch of 295 and who knows how long that'll take. What complicates things is Gov Hogan wants MD to take ownership of that stretch of 295 in order to widen it. If that happens and Hogan streamlines the approval process for tunneling, then I would imagine the Purple Line would be near completion by the time the Hyperloop construction makes it way down there.
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Old 10-20-2017, 01:31 PM
 
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Their opening statement has more questions than valid reasons to oppose it. THe widening of 295 will take homes. But I thought most of this train would be underground and the above ground portions would be elevated. Which begs the question, will it contend with the Hyperloop that is also underground and will run under 295? Wouldn't they have to rethink their ROW?
i was wondering the same thing. i've been hearing maglev for a while, but the hyperloop? only in the past couple weeks.
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Old 10-20-2017, 02:36 PM
 
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I haven't seen any anticipated open date yet. The work that they've started is only for the portion of 295 between MD 175 and the Baltimore city line. They still need federal approval to tunnel underneath the federally owned stretch of 295 and who knows how long that'll take. What complicates things is Gov Hogan wants MD to take ownership of that stretch of 295 in order to widen it. If that happens and Hogan streamlines the approval process for tunneling, then I would imagine the Purple Line would be near completion by the time the Hyperloop construction makes it way down there.
Hmmm interesting that they would choose to start without having approval for the federal section. That's risky.
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