Hey, PG County Property Owners, your tax just went up 4%! (Bethesda: credit, school district)

[North Beach Person]

Originally Posted by Mos82

and did u feel that way about the students? If so their is your problem. Luckily for me I had teachers who if someone made that remark they would let the person know that they enjoyed teaching their students and watching them grow.

I don't remember saying I had a problem. No I didn't, defended my job choice.

You probably don't know what your teachers thought or did.

[justtitans]

Originally Posted by Mos82

and did u feel that way about the students? If so their is your problem. Luckily for me I had teachers who if someone made that remark they would let the person know that they enjoyed teaching their students and watching them grow.

Wow you're kind of making a huge assumption aren't you?

[justtitans]

Originally Posted by Mos82

The black population in PG county graduate rate is close to 80 percent, which is actually higher than the overall Graduation rate in PG

Especially in modern times, graduating from high school isn't really an accomplishment. How many of these individuals go on to graduate from college and/or are gainfully employed is a much more valuable measure of things. With that said, it still doesn't change the point that is being made. Are you arguing that because the graduate rate is a certain percentage than black families care? I think there are certainly black families that definitely value education, but attendance at Parent/Teacher Conferences, at Honor Roll Ceremonies, at School Board Meetings, and PTA meetings really speak volumes of the value of education. I actually personally know one of the former County PTA Council's Presidents and we had conversations about his initiatives to increase parental involvement. But it won't change if people don't think it's an issue...

[Artnature82]

Originally Posted by Mos82

The black population in PG county graduate rate is close to 80 percent, which is actually higher than the overall Graduation rate in PG

Is that an adequate number? What about the other 20%? Are you really content with the performance levels and poorly ranked schools? That's the type of attitude hurting this county.

[AeroGuyDC]

“While we support many of the concepts in this school system’s strategic plan, we have collectively determined that [Baker’s proposals] . . . are not affordable for county taxpayers,” Franklin said.

In most jurisdictions in the country, this statement alone would cause near rioting by concerned parents. But in PG County? LOL Education took a backseat a long time ago to single-parent households, chronic crime, poverty, welfare, unemployment, etc. PG has chosen to put the worthless leeches ahead of education.

Par for the course! And PG will continue to circle the drain because of it! LOL

[AeroGuyDC]

Originally Posted by adelphi_sky

I think some people feel that you can turn ships on a dime. The last I heard, when Maxwell took office, it was said it would take 5 years to turn the school system around. That was before Hogan was elected and decided to hold back education funds.

We should know by now that proposals or initiatives last as long as those who support them are in office and as long as funding is available. Just like everyone thought the Purple Line was a slam dunk. Then Hogan happened.

I'm not saying that this administration is infallible. But from where I sit, this county is doing better than it was under Johnson. And to be fair, if there were decades of dysfunction, I would expect the same length of time to correct it. who knows if the executive after Rashern Baker doesn't take us backward?

The important question is, are we going forward? Or backward? As long as we are going forward, I don't care how long it takes. Progress is progress whether it is fast or slow. Maybe too slow for some.

When you have a major housing crises affect the main revenue source in a county. And also a decades old law that held property taxes stable for such a long time, coupled with stagnating wages for the past 30 years, how else can you raise the money? Something has to give to fill the shortfall caused not by the county, but by Hogan and those who feel that the government should spend less.

Someone show me a better alternative. And I don't want to hear about business revenue. Because that takes decades to build and doesn't solve the county's immediate need.

In your first sentence you just couldn't resist in engaging in intellectual dishonesty, huh?

Didn't read the rest of your post because you started off with a blatant falsehood. The FACT of the matter is that Maryland schools have been funded at HISTORICAL levels under Larry Hogan. Just because he opted not to dispense EXTRA funding the schools NEVER had doesn't mean that he has undercut school funding, as your post explicitly implies!

When you stop lying, we'll take you seriously.

[Mos82]

Originally Posted by Artnature82

Is that an adequate number? What about the other 20%? Are you really content with the performance levels and poorly ranked schools? That's the type of attitude hurting this county.

LOL, 80 percent is the national average, and is around the average for the State of MD overall, what are u talking about? I'm just pointing out facts. Just because they dont fit your "PG is horrible" mindset doesn't mean the facts shouldn't be pointed out. All I hear is how "black and poor" PG county is, well 80 percent gradation rate for a bunch of black & poor people aint too shabby

[Mos82]

Originally Posted by justtitans

Especially in modern times, graduating from high school isn't really an accomplishment. How many of these individuals go on to graduate from college and/or are gainfully employed is a much more valuable measure of things. With that said, it still doesn't change the point that is being made. Are you arguing that because the graduate rate is a certain percentage than black families care? I think there are certainly black families that definitely value education, but attendance at Parent/Teacher Conferences, at Honor Roll Ceremonies, at School Board Meetings, and PTA meetings really speak volumes of the value of education. I actually personally know one of the former County PTA Council's Presidents and we had conversations about his initiatives to increase parental involvement. But it won't change if people don't think it's an issue...

So we should ignore stats that are accurate and and positive because they dont fit your narrative? You can want more progress without exaggerating how horrible the school system is. You want quality teachers and affluent parents. But who would move here and or teach here if all they hear is how HORRIBLE the school system is. What does that do to the students psyche as well? How does that motivate them to constantly hear from people like you how horrible they are, and how horrible the teachers are?

[Mos82]

Originally Posted by North Beach Person

I don't remember saying I had a problem. No I didn't, defended my job choice.

You probably don't know what your teachers thought or did.

No I did know, because over a decade later I can drop by their houses unannounced. Thats the impact and bond I made with several of my teachers. Your Non response to that person statement is much more telling that anything you could have said. Like I said I'm glad my teachers didn't have your mindset, and once again if people in this thread are looking the "problem" in PG county schools look no further

[justtitans]

Originally Posted by Mos82

So we should ignore stats that are accurate and and positive because they dont fit your narrative? You can want more progress without exaggerating how horrible the school system is. You want quality teachers and affluent parents. But who would move here and or teach here if all they hear is how HORRIBLE the school system is. What does that do to the students psyche as well? How does that motivate them to constantly hear from people like you how horrible they are, and how horrible the teachers are?

No not at all, I'm not ignoring the statistics, I just don't think it tells anything about success. It's like getting a medal for coming to a marathon. You haven't finished the marathon, you just got started.

Never commented on the quality of the school system. Focus, calm down, and focus on what I am actually saying.

If it was true, that the school system is bad, are you suggesting that people should lie about the quality so that people will still come? That's like your best friend asking you if she is fat and you lie to her, tell her she's not hoping that people won't see what you actually see. Doesn't change the reality.

So when did I say the schools were bad in this conversation? When did I say the teachers are bad?