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Old 08-15-2019, 03:27 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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Every one of you Konterra cheerleaders are missing the forest for the trees. Face it, brick and mortar retail is dying. Retail concepts are a huge gamble and investors know it. Also, millennials are not buying houses, and they are the people who (theoretically) demand these walkable, car free destinations. So if they don't buy, then who will? I can tell you that no one I know in Gen X is even remotely excited about or seeking a house in the middle of a fake town center. People my age with kids want an actual yard with a driveway and the ability to get away from their neighbors and a storefront. Walking to Walgreens couldn't be further from our desires. And here's the thing, we make good money, so we have options. Will Konterra sell houses? Of course, but the market for the crap they are proposing is limited.

The only thing going for Konterra is the location. Being on the I-95 corridor gives a pretty easy commute option for DC and Baltimore area workers. Howard County is a stone's throw away and I can damn near guarantee that anyone relocating to work for a Konterra-based corporate facility will choose HoCo and its high performing schools over a run-of-the-mill fake town center in PG County any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

There's no action there for a reason. It's an idea whose time has come and gone.
Absolutely. Spot on post.
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Old 08-16-2019, 08:04 AM
 
Location: It's in the name!
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Every one of you Konterra cheerleaders are missing the forest for the trees. Face it, brick and mortar retail is dying. Retail concepts are a huge gamble and investors know it. Also, millennials are not buying houses, and they are the people who (theoretically) demand these walkable, car free destinations. So if they don't buy, then who will? I can tell you that no one I know in Gen X is even remotely excited about or seeking a house in the middle of a fake town center. People my age with kids want an actual yard with a driveway and the ability to get away from their neighbors and a storefront. Walking to Walgreens couldn't be further from our desires. And here's the thing, we make good money, so we have options. Will Konterra sell houses? Of course, but the market for the crap they are proposing is limited.

The only thing going for Konterra is the location. Being on the I-95 corridor gives a pretty easy commute option for DC and Baltimore area workers. Howard County is a stone's throw away and I can damn near guarantee that anyone relocating to work for a Konterra-based corporate facility will choose HoCo and its high performing schools over a run-of-the-mill fake town center in PG County any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

There's no action there for a reason. It's an idea whose time has come and gone.
Konterra is stalled only for two reasons. No transit and no office component. Westphalia stalled for the same reason and they had to go with a "logistics center" to fill the gap in retail and other offices.

Town Centers are still the thing, especially in transit-oriented zones. Therefore, brick & mortar retail is not dying when you have National Harbor, Washington Harbor, Pike & Rose, a redeveloping Largo Town Center, Riverdale Park Station, etc. Not to mention the vanilla neighborhoods in the hinterlands of Loudoun County with their strip malls and national chains.

You may like to stay to yourself in your house with a yard. But the new generations crave social activities and don't mind having roommates in tiny apartment homes (in order to afford to go out and travel, etc.). They don't mind the urban townhome a block from H&M or Starbucks. The current market can support both the socialites and the suburban family. I don't see that ending with the current DC job growth.
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Old 08-16-2019, 01:05 PM
 
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Konterra is stalled only for two reasons. No transit and no office component. Westphalia stalled for the same reason and they had to go with a "logistics center" to fill the gap in retail and other offices.

Town Centers are still the thing, especially in transit-oriented zones. Therefore, brick & mortar retail is not dying when you have National Harbor, Washington Harbor, Pike & Rose, a redeveloping Largo Town Center, Riverdale Park Station, etc. Not to mention the vanilla neighborhoods in the hinterlands of Loudoun County with their strip malls and national chains.

You may like to stay to yourself in your house with a yard. But the new generations crave social activities and don't mind having roommates in tiny apartment homes (in order to afford to go out and travel, etc.). They don't mind the urban townhome a block from H&M or Starbucks. The current market can support both the socialites and the suburban family. I don't see that ending with the current DC job growth.
Good Lord! What a bombastic statement.

You're absolutely sure, there is absolutely nothing else stalling progress. Any sports betting tips?

The internet is full of people "imbued with a fierce certainty" on this, that, or every topic under the sun. They're usually called Christian fundamentalists, Orthodox Jews, Islamic jihadists, or more politely in legal terms strict constructionists like Justice Scalia.
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Old 08-17-2019, 10:06 AM
 
Location: It's in the name!
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good lord! What a bombastic statement.

You're absolutely sure, there is absolutely nothing else stalling progress. Any sports betting tips?

The internet is full of people "imbued with a fierce certainty" on this, that, or every topic under the sun. They're usually called christian fundamentalists, orthodox jews, islamic jihadists, or more politely in legal terms strict constructionists like justice scalia.
:d
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Old 08-20-2019, 05:13 PM
 
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Good Lord! What a bombastic statement.

You're absolutely sure, there is absolutely nothing else stalling progress. Any sports betting tips?

The internet is full of people "imbued with a fierce certainty" on this, that, or every topic under the sun. They're usually called Christian fundamentalists, Orthodox Jews, Islamic jihadists, or more politely in legal terms strict constructionists like Justice Scalia.
Lol what
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Old 08-21-2019, 05:50 AM
 
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The sum total of the previous two posts is illuminating by their lack of substance.
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Old 08-21-2019, 05:57 AM
 
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What the...
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Old 08-21-2019, 02:23 PM
 
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The sum total of the previous two posts is illuminating by their lack of substance.
If you want a legitimate response, don't make ignorant comments.
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Old 08-22-2019, 07:27 AM
 
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If you want a legitimate response, don't make ignorant comments.
You're confusing ignorant with rude.
Some may consider my comment rude, but "ignorant" it definitely was not.

I could offer you my opinion on why you are confusing, but I'll spare you.
Instead, I'll offer you this:
Sometimes it's better to stay quiet, and be thought a fool than open your mouth, and remove all doubt.
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Old 08-22-2019, 09:20 AM
 
Location: MD
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You're confusing ignorant with rude.
Some may consider my comment rude, but "ignorant" it definitely was not.

I could offer you my opinion on why you are confusing, but I'll spare you.
Instead, I'll offer you this:
Sometimes it's better to stay quiet, and be thought a fool than open your mouth, and remove all doubt.
Well, why do you think Konterra has stalled? And why do you think Amazon had something to do with killing it?
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