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Old 10-29-2015, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Upper Marlboro
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I'm sorry in context of America the data makes both of you wrong. Race really isn't an issue here. It's culture or lack of a culture to be more accurate.
I'm sorry, but if you knew anything about American history (you know, the context of America?), you'd know that race is exactly the issue at hand. Just because it isn't actually about race at the core doesn't mean its not perceived that way and inevitably acted upon.

I mean, that honestly goes for nearly all prejudice in the world since forever. There are exceptions, but it has been the norm.
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Old 10-29-2015, 08:30 AM
 
Location: It's in the name!
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I'm sorry in context of America the data makes both of you wrong. Race really isn't an issue here. It's culture or lack of a culture to be more accurate.
You singled out a group of people, then suggest it's not about race. There are subcultures in every race that aren't representative of the entire race. Would it be fair if someone said that you can't trust all Nigerians because there is a well-know subculture of internet fraud?

Just because there is a subculture of crime, which is evident in every race, doesn't mean that 99% of that race is involved.
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Old 10-30-2015, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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You singled out a group of people, then suggest it's not about race. There are subcultures in every race that aren't representative of the entire race. Would it be fair if someone said that you can't trust all Nigerians because there is a well-know subculture of internet fraud?

Just because there is a subculture of crime, which is evident in every race, doesn't mean that 99% of that race is involved.
The remaining criminal free portion strenuously defends the criminal portion, hence why it's a cultural problem. Also in terms of Waldorf the issue is mostly about the schools not crime. More black students means poorer test scores, means more behavioral issues. I heard there was a big fight at lackey a few weeks ago resulting in a lock down.

These are examples of a cultural problem that are not merely confined to a small subset.
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Old 10-31-2015, 12:57 AM
 
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The remaining criminal free portion strenuously defends the criminal portion, hence why it's a cultural problem. Also in terms of Waldorf the issue is mostly about the schools not crime. More black students means poorer test scores, means more behavioral issues. I heard there was a big fight at lackey a few weeks ago resulting in a lock down.

These are examples of a cultural problem that are not merely confined to a small subset.
It's not just culture, it's poverty. Poverty breeds a lot of issues, no matter if you are white or black. It's the same reason much of Africa is very poor and has issues with crime and corruption all around.

There was a news story out a few months ago in the Washington Post about an Asian restaurant in Kenya that banned all blacks after 5pm because they are too violent. At the same time I'm sure you know plenty of nice, law abiding African people who don't want to be grouped with Africans who misbehave.
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Old 11-02-2015, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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*sigh*

Lost track of what the thread was originally about, however... I recently moved to Waldorf (20601) found a house in a nice neighborhood for a great price. Waldorf as a whole isn't "bad"....yet*

But yeah, traffic is horrendous.
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Old 11-03-2015, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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*sigh*

Lost track of what the thread was originally about, however... I recently moved to Waldorf (20601) found a house in a nice neighborhood for a great price. Waldorf as a whole isn't "bad"....yet*

But yeah, traffic is horrendous.
Waldorf isn't bad at all really. It's just probably never going to see the price appreciation that other areas in the region enjoy because of the reasons cited. You still will be able to get nice homes for a reasonable amount near amenities.
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Old 11-04-2015, 05:17 AM
 
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Waldorf isn't bad at all really. It's just probably never going to see the price appreciation that other areas in the region enjoy because of the reasons cited. You still will be able to get nice homes for a reasonable amount near amenities.
I believe the reason there will not be much price appreciation is that the brief flirt with moving as far out in the suburbs as possible to get a good deal is now over. People are now coming to the conclusion that the nightmare commute, coupled with gas prices that skyrocket from time to time, is not worth it. If I didn't work in Southern PG county, fairly close to Charles County, I would not live out here either, as much as I enjoy doing so. The schools are much better, but even that is not a deciding factor, as private schools and group home schooling are easily available.
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Old 11-05-2015, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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I believe the reason there will not be much price appreciation is that the brief flirt with moving as far out in the suburbs as possible to get a good deal is now over. People are now coming to the conclusion that the nightmare commute, coupled with gas prices that skyrocket from time to time, is not worth it. If I didn't work in Southern PG county, fairly close to Charles County, I would not live out here either, as much as I enjoy doing so. The schools are much better, but even that is not a deciding factor, as private schools and group home schooling are easily available.
I agree but public schools are always a factor. Even within Southern MD, homes in areas that feed into better rated schools are valued more, everything else being equal. So homes in La Plata sell for more than new homes in Waldorf even though La Plata is further from DC.
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Old 11-05-2015, 02:05 PM
 
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I agree but public schools are always a factor. Even within Southern MD, homes in areas that feed into better rated schools are valued more, everything else being equal. So homes in La Plata sell for more than new homes in Waldorf even though La Plata is further from DC.
Homes in La Plata are generally more expensive than Waldorf but schools don't have much to do with it. In La Plata, homes are generally higher end and larger lots. When you compare apples to apples in La Plata and Waldorf, the costs are around the same. There were lots of McMansions built on tiny lots in Waldorf. Of course they will sell for less. Most town homes in Waldorf were very cheaply built in comparison to those in La Plata. La Plata houses are also more customized in their finishes as opposed to the builder grade materials used in Waldorf homes. So basically, you're paying more in LaPlata because it's actually a better house and oftentimes on a larger lot. If you don't believe it, compare new construction in both areas. The prices are basically the same for the same square footage and lot size, however Waldorf new construction is slightly higher, but not by much.
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Old 11-05-2015, 04:58 PM
 
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I plan on moving to waldorf in a few years if and when I sell my homes. I do not really compare builders because its drywall, wood, and paint. We someone says homes in one area are cheaply built than another area. That's like saying some burgers from burger king in waldorf are different than the burger king in la plata. Its a burger. Its on all perception. You cannot choose perception. The prices from some homes are very expensive for the commute which I do not mind. The larger lot in la plata are a major deal when it comes to pricing. I would like to do at least 3 cartwheels before I'm in my neighbors yard. I'm moving out there just to be in seclusion from the urban hectic lifestyle of washington dc and its surrounding area. As far as crime goes.... stay in the house.
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