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Old 12-21-2018, 01:13 PM
 
Location: College Park MD
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Places that I'd like to see open in CP..all local and should do anywhere from pretty well to exceptionally well..

Luke's Lobster
2Amy's Pizza
&Pizza
Buredo
Farmbird
Rasa
Good Stuff Eatery
BIBIBOP Asian Grill
Cosi

They can still use a couple higher end pizza spots since two have closed just in the last 4-5 months..

Last edited by mmoz80; 12-21-2018 at 01:57 PM..
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Old 12-21-2018, 03:29 PM
 
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Local restaurants can open in College Park (and neighboring cities) and do just fine, they just have to be actually good restaurants. OMG service sucks with overpriced, slighly above average food. Bird's Kitchen service and venue sucked, again overpriced and ok food. Now Burton's is actually really freaking great food, service, and ambiance. Kapnos was really freaking great food, service, and ambiance. Carolina kitchen is another one, good xyz. Milk & Honey is another good one. But when I look at BeClaws, I feel it's only a matter of time. Anyways, it just takes the investment to make the place legit and often times that comes from a chain. But if a restaurateur wants to open a restaurant with good food, good service, and have a nice ambiance, it will most likely succeed in CP/Hyattsville/Riverdale/etc. Finger's crossed for Penny Royal Station!

That said, MMOZ80 is hinting at being on the same page with me, most of those restaurants are the same I listed as targets for the area. CP right now is still best served by the upper end fast casual dining options. Students and millennials eat out, daily, sometimes multiple times daily and don't have money to tip nor much time to spend mingling over dinner.
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Old 12-21-2018, 10:03 PM
 
Location: It's in the name!
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Bird's closed months ago. Did it re-open? I highly doubt an upscale pizza place would survive in a college town anyway.
Oh wow. Didn't know Bird's closed. Ate there twice. But haven't been in a while.
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Old 12-21-2018, 10:05 PM
 
Location: It's in the name!
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Local restaurants can open in College Park (and neighboring cities) and do just fine, they just have to be actually good restaurants. OMG service sucks with overpriced, slighly above average food. Bird's Kitchen service and venue sucked, again overpriced and ok food. Now Burton's is actually really freaking great food, service, and ambiance. Kapnos was really freaking great food, service, and ambiance. Carolina kitchen is another one, good xyz. Milk & Honey is another good one. But when I look at BeClaws, I feel it's only a matter of time. Anyways, it just takes the investment to make the place legit and often times that comes from a chain. But if a restaurateur wants to open a restaurant with good food, good service, and have a nice ambiance, it will most likely succeed in CP/Hyattsville/Riverdale/etc. Finger's crossed for Penny Royal Station!

That said, MMOZ80 is hinting at being on the same page with me, most of those restaurants are the same I listed as targets for the area. CP right now is still best served by the upper end fast casual dining options. Students and millennials eat out, daily, sometimes multiple times daily and don't have money to tip nor much time to spend mingling over dinner.
I agree that Bird's service was so-so and the ambiance was cramped. Food had potential.
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Old 12-21-2018, 10:17 PM
 
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I disagree about chain restaurants. I feel like the better college towns have more mom and pop options, restaurants that are unique. The younger generation is also much more food-savvy, they want organic, farm to table type stuff. Not everyone, but I think a lot of these TGI Friday's and other mass chains are not doing as well as before? I don't know. Stuff like Cava is great, but at least that is local and has good ingredients, fresh food. Sweetgreen same thing. I'd hope we don't see more TGI Fridays, Applebees type places. Local chain like Ted's Bulletin would be nice.



And its unfortunate about Isabella's issues, I think Kapnos could have succeeded.
I agree. I would love more mom & pop restaurants. But like I said, those take time to build a cult following. Plato's Diner was a CP staple. It's unfortunate that it was closed because of a fire. It would take decades for another staple like that to be created.

There's Bently's and Cornerstone Grill. But those are known as college bars and not really a place for a family to have a nice quiet evening dinner along the lines of Burton's Grill.

Right now, the market is too expensive for any single restauranteur without big investor backing or an existing successful restaurant elsewhere like the Isabella group or the pizza Paradiso franchise.

We need some DC star chefs to give CP a try. I remember emailing Chef Geoff a long time ago about CP. Wouldn't it be great if Jose Andreas gave ETOR a try? How about Mark Samuelson, the Voltaggio brothers? All have a big DMV presence.

Bobby's Burger Palace, a chain backed by a star chef, is still around. Go figure.

Personal request; CP needs another BBQ place. Mission BBQ is a strong chain. So far, two BBQ places failed. Both were local DC area favorites.
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Old 12-23-2018, 08:12 AM
 
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I disagree about chain restaurants. I feel like the better college towns have more mom and pop options, restaurants that are unique. The younger generation is also much more food-savvy, they want organic, farm to table type stuff. Not everyone, but I think a lot of these TGI Friday's and other mass chains are not doing as well as before? I don't know. Stuff like Cava is great, but at least that is local and has good ingredients, fresh food. Sweetgreen same thing. I'd hope we don't see more TGI Fridays, Applebees type places. Local chain like Ted's Bulletin would be nice.



And its unfortunate about Isabella's issues, I think Kapnos could have succeeded.


Agreed.
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Old 12-23-2018, 08:13 AM
 
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I agree. I would love more mom & pop restaurants. But like I said, those take time to build a cult following. Plato's Diner was a CP staple. It's unfortunate that it was closed because of a fire. It would take decades for another staple like that to be created.

There's Bently's and Cornerstone Grill. But those are known as college bars and not really a place for a family to have a nice quiet evening dinner along the lines of Burton's Grill.

Right now, the market is too expensive for any single restauranteur without big investor backing or an existing successful restaurant elsewhere like the Isabella group or the pizza Paradiso franchise.

We need some DC star chefs to give CP a try. I remember emailing Chef Geoff a long time ago about CP. Wouldn't it be great if Jose Andreas gave ETOR a try? How about Mark Samuelson, the Voltaggio brothers? All have a big DMV presence.

Bobby's Burger Palace, a chain backed by a star chef, is still around. Go figure.

Personal request; CP needs another BBQ place. Mission BBQ is a strong chain. So far, two BBQ places failed. Both were local DC area favorites.


I went to one of those bbq spots and was not impressed. I was not surprised it closed.
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Old 01-04-2019, 06:25 PM
 
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Well there is an interesting turn regarding Kapnos. Having this place under a new name and new ownership would be a good thing if it works out. https://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/...under-new-name

As Kapnos D.C. Closes, George Pagonis Vows To Reopen Greek Eateries Under New Name

"It's been five-and-a-half great years that we worked hard to keep the Kapnos brand associated with good food," Pagonis says. "Right now I'm starting my own company and I'm actively seeking the old Kapnos locations and speaking with landlords to reopen them up under a new name."

"Mike and I are done 100 percent," George says. "There is a zero percent chance that we will ever do something together again. Kapnos D.C. was the last restaurant standing that had our partnership, and with it closing, it also puts an end to the partnership."
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Old 01-04-2019, 09:06 PM
 
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Local restaurants can open in College Park (and neighboring cities) and do just fine, they just have to be actually good restaurants. OMG service sucks with overpriced, slighly above average food. Bird's Kitchen service and venue sucked, again overpriced and ok food. Now Burton's is actually really freaking great food, service, and ambiance. Kapnos was really freaking great food, service, and ambiance. Carolina kitchen is another one, good xyz. Milk & Honey is another good one. But when I look at BeClaws, I feel it's only a matter of time. Anyways, it just takes the investment to make the place legit and often times that comes from a chain. But if a restaurateur wants to open a restaurant with good food, good service, and have a nice ambiance, it will most likely succeed in CP/Hyattsville/Riverdale/etc. Finger's crossed for Penny Royal Station!

That said, MMOZ80 is hinting at being on the same page with me, most of those restaurants are the same I listed as targets for the area. CP right now is still best served by the upper end fast casual dining options. Students and millennials eat out, daily, sometimes multiple times daily and don't have money to tip nor much time to spend mingling over dinner.
Have you been there? It's delicious. Also, they are actually closing their MoCo location so the PG location will be their only location.
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Old 01-04-2019, 09:53 PM
 
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Have you been there? It's delicious. Also, they are actually closing their MoCo location so the PG location will be their only location.
I have, the food was just ok and the service was poor, but it has been a while since I've been. Ambiance is nice, so hopefully they've improved the service...ambiance and service can go a long ways even if the food is just ok.
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