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Old 08-25-2017, 09:59 AM
 
Location: The Triad
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Originally Posted by adelphi_sky View Post
So, which aspect of working downtown is appealing to a majority of FBI workers?
The same aspects of working downtown that make it appealing in any city.

But the question I'm raising isn't about what a "majority" might feel about anything...
it's about what would appeal at the upper levels among those who can have some influence.
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Old 08-25-2017, 10:26 AM
 
Location: It's in the name!
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The same aspects of working downtown that make it appealing in any city.
You avoided the question.

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But the question I'm raising isn't about what a "majority" might feel about anything...
it's about what would appeal at the upper levels among those who can have some influence.
Do you think that if the "upper levels" had any influence that they would still be in a crumbling building and spread out over DC region? I think that influence would have at least got them new digs by now no matter where it would have ended up.
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Old 08-25-2017, 10:28 AM
 
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The same aspects of working downtown that make it appealing in any city.

But the question I'm raising isn't about what a "majority" might feel about anything...
it's about what would appeal at the upper levels among those who can have some influence.
I think your logic appeals to any government agency that is being moved from downtown to the suburbs...you think patent office employees wouldn't rather still be in the portrait museum than alexandria? The government doesn't care that the FBI is close to Wizards games and Founding Farmers or they wouldn't have all these agencies in the burbs.
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Old 08-25-2017, 10:40 AM
 
Location: The Triad
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Do you think that if the "upper levels" had any influence
that they would still be in a crumbling building ....?
I'm suggesting exactly that ...and rather than being spread out all over the DC region.

The lower level people and labs and all that can be pretty much anywhere.
But nowhere else even comes close to downtown

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I think that influence would have at least got them new digs by now...
And it could have... but not downtown. The GSA has a fair bit of influence as well.

They'll rebuild the HQ from the inside if they have to.
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Old 08-25-2017, 11:10 AM
 
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I'm suggesting exactly that ...and rather than being spread out all over the DC region.

The lower level people and labs and all that can be pretty much anywhere.
But nowhere else even comes close to downtown


And it could have... but not downtown. The GSA has a fair bit of influence as well.

They'll rebuild the HQ from the inside if they have to.

No they won't. They won't all fit.
GSA has already said the costs to repair are more than the cost to rebuild and move.

There are loads of agencies in the suburbs
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Old 08-25-2017, 11:31 AM
 
Location: The Triad
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There are loads of agencies in the suburbs
And yet the FBI isn't.
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Old 08-25-2017, 12:18 PM
 
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They'll rebuild the HQ from the inside if they have to.
THat was deemed economically unfeasible. YOu would have to empty out the entire building. So, where would all those employees work? The GSA would have to sign more leases spread out over the entire region to place the remaining employees. THere's moving costs, infrastructure costs, IT, furniture, security. etc. I think doing it all at once in a new facility big enough for all employees makes better sense. So does the GSA. IN addition, even if the new building was redone on the inside where are all the employees who are already in satellite buildings supposed to work? The other fact is that the FBI has also outgrown the crumbling building. If you redo the building, you have just solved the age issue but not the space issue.
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Old 08-25-2017, 04:10 PM
 
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If you have a subscription, the DC Business Journal covered the topic of TSA site selection effect on the FBI head on

https://www.bizjournals.com/washingt...ht-affect.html
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Old 08-26-2017, 06:27 PM
 
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Thank you, how many of us commenting here on C-D have had in depth conversations with "FBI top level" employees?

I have, really.It was 42 years ago but I did.
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Old 08-27-2017, 12:09 AM
 
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And yet the FBI isn't.


..thanks for your astute and in depth reply
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