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Old 10-24-2016, 02:24 PM
 
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"Delaying until 2017 also means any decision will take place when a new president in office, and that could add its own intrigue. Hillary Clinton, for instance, counts Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe (D) as a close confidant, and her vice presidential nominee is current Virginia Sen. Tim Kaine (D)."
I know it's pointless to speculate, but it doesn't look so good for Landover and Greenbelt. I hope reason trumps politics (no pun intended); I think both MD locations have far more advantages than Springfield.
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Old 10-24-2016, 02:49 PM
 
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Ridiculous... the decision was already delayed before. I hate to speculate as well, but I think someone is pushing for this to be delayed knowing that Mikulski will be out & Kaine will most likely be the VP going into 2017. It seems like it is all politics and not in the best interest of the FBI or us in the region.

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Old 10-24-2016, 03:00 PM
 
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Who is surprised? When has the govt ever been efficient?
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Old 10-24-2016, 03:11 PM
 
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You people act like Maryland doesn't exist. I'm sure there will be hell to pay if speculation comes true. There would be inquiries, investigations, etc. I'm not sure if there wouldn't be a conflict of interest or not, but I do suspect that a Vice President can't coerce or favor his home state as VP for such a high profile move like this.

The entire region save for a few Virginia holdouts believes Greenbelt is the optimal choice. Anything other than that would be an injustice. I liken it to the Purple Line fight. Most everyone believes the Purple Line is a worthy transportation project except for a select few. And though the funding is help up in court, I think reason will prevail and the line will move forward.

I think the same way concerning the FBI. Everyone knows Virginia has the lion's share of GSA offices outside of DC. Continuing that trend would be detrimental to regional politics and the regional economy as it will continue to favor one side of the other.

Maryland has even made it cheaper for the FBI to relocate to Greenbelt. It would be more expensive to build in VA because of existing facilities and toxic soil. It would be plain favoritism on the VP's part which would be a slap in the face to all things practical if they chose a more expensive non-optimal place just because Kaine is the VP. And honestly I don't think he will have much say if he is the VP anyway. VPs are pretty much powerless.

And not to mention the academy that just launched at the UMD that will work with the FBI on innovation and training FBI employees. It will be the FBI Academy for the 21st century.

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Old 10-24-2016, 05:35 PM
 
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You people act like Maryland doesn't exist. I'm sure there will be hell to pay if speculation comes true. There would be inquiries, investigations, etc. I'm not sure if there wouldn't be a conflict of interest or not, but I do suspect that a Vice President can't coerce or favor his home state as VP for such a high profile move like this.

The entire region save for a few Virginia holdouts believes Greenbelt is the optimal choice. Anything other than that would be an injustice. I liken it to the Purple Line fight. Most everyone believes the Purple Line is a worthy transportation project except for a select few. And though the funding is help up in court, I think reason will prevail and the line will move forward.

I think the same way concerning the FBI. Everyone knows Virginia has the lion's share of GSA offices outside of DC. Continuing that trend would be detrimental to regional politics and the regional economy as it will continue to favor one side of the other.

Maryland has even made it cheaper for the FBI to relocate to Greenbelt. It would be more expensive to build in VA because of existing facilities and toxic soil. It would be plain favoritism on the VP's part which would be a slap in the face to all things practical if they chose a more expensive non-optimal place just because Kaine is the VP. And honestly I don't think he will have much say if he is the VP anyway. VPs are pretty much powerless.

And not to mention the academy that just launched at the UMD that will work with the FBI on innovation and training FBI employees. It will be the FBI Academy for the 21st century.

Another point would be that the Springfield location would take years to reclassify and relocate the files/information being stored there which could impact funding the build
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Old 10-24-2016, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Cumberland
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You people act like Maryland doesn't exist. I'm sure there will be hell to pay if speculation comes true. There would be inquiries, investigations, etc. I'm not sure if there wouldn't be a conflict of interest or not, but I do suspect that a Vice President can't coerce or favor his home state as VP for such a high profile move like this.

The entire region save for a few Virginia holdouts believes Greenbelt is the optimal choice. Anything other than that would be an injustice. I liken it to the Purple Line fight. Most everyone believes the Purple Line is a worthy transportation project except for a select few. And though the funding is help up in court, I think reason will prevail and the line will move forward.

I think the same way concerning the FBI. Everyone knows Virginia has the lion's share of GSA offices outside of DC. Continuing that trend would be detrimental to regional politics and the regional economy as it will continue to favor one side of the other.

Maryland has even made it cheaper for the FBI to relocate to Greenbelt. It would be more expensive to build in VA because of existing facilities and toxic soil. It would be plain favoritism on the VP's part which would be a slap in the face to all things practical if they chose a more expensive non-optimal place just because Kaine is the VP. And honestly I don't think he will have much say if he is the VP anyway. VPs are pretty much powerless.

And not to mention the academy that just launched at the UMD that will work with the FBI on innovation and training FBI employees. It will be the FBI Academy for the 21st century.
There are 13 good reasons the Democrats would want to put another Fedgov worker facility in VA.

What did the fairy Meriweather keep saying about Princess Aurora's dress in Disney's Sleeping Beauty?
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Old 10-25-2016, 03:25 AM
 
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You people act like Maryland doesn't exist. I'm sure there will be hell to pay if speculation comes true. There would be inquiries, investigations, etc. I'm not sure if there wouldn't be a conflict of interest or not, but I do suspect that a Vice President can't coerce or favor his home state as VP for such a high profile move like this.

The entire region save for a few Virginia holdouts believes Greenbelt is the optimal choice. Anything other than that would be an injustice. I liken it to the Purple Line fight. Most everyone believes the Purple Line is a worthy transportation project except for a select few. And though the funding is help up in court, I think reason will prevail and the line will move forward.

I think the same way concerning the FBI. Everyone knows Virginia has the lion's share of GSA offices outside of DC. Continuing that trend would be detrimental to regional politics and the regional economy as it will continue to favor one side of the other.

Maryland has even made it cheaper for the FBI to relocate to Greenbelt. It would be more expensive to build in VA because of existing facilities and toxic soil. It would be plain favoritism on the VP's part which would be a slap in the face to all things practical if they chose a more expensive non-optimal place just because Kaine is the VP. And honestly I don't think he will have much say if he is the VP anyway. VPs are pretty much powerless.

And not to mention the academy that just launched at the UMD that will work with the FBI on innovation and training FBI employees. It will be the FBI Academy for the 21st century.
You can complain all you want but VA does make sense.What FBI Academy at Maryland sometimes the stuff you make up is amazing. There are plains but nothing yet.

Universities to sweeten the pot for FBI headquarters in Maryland with new national security academy - Baltimore Sun
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Old 10-25-2016, 05:05 AM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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"Delaying until 2017 also means any decision will take place when a new president in office, and that could add its own intrigue. Hillary Clinton, for instance, counts Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe (D) as a close confidant, and her vice presidential nominee is current Virginia Sen. Tim Kaine (D)."
I know it's pointless to speculate, but it doesn't look so good for Landover and Greenbelt. I hope reason trumps politics (no pun intended); I think both MD locations have far more advantages than Springfield.
Are they saying that we should vote for Trump if we want it in Greenbelt?
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Old 10-25-2016, 09:00 AM
 
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You people act like Maryland doesn't exist. I'm sure there will be hell to pay if speculation comes true. There would be inquiries, investigations, etc. I'm not sure if there wouldn't be a conflict of interest or not, but I do suspect that a Vice President can't coerce or favor his home state as VP for such a high profile move like this.

The entire region save for a few Virginia holdouts believes Greenbelt is the optimal choice. Anything other than that would be an injustice. I liken it to the Purple Line fight. Most everyone believes the Purple Line is a worthy transportation project except for a select few. And though the funding is help up in court, I think reason will prevail and the line will move forward.

I think the same way concerning the FBI. Everyone knows Virginia has the lion's share of GSA offices outside of DC. Continuing that trend would be detrimental to regional politics and the regional economy as it will continue to favor one side of the other.

Maryland has even made it cheaper for the FBI to relocate to Greenbelt. It would be more expensive to build in VA because of existing facilities and toxic soil. It would be plain favoritism on the VP's part which would be a slap in the face to all things practical if they chose a more expensive non-optimal place just because Kaine is the VP. And honestly I don't think he will have much say if he is the VP anyway. VPs are pretty much powerless.

And not to mention the academy that just launched at the UMD that will work with the FBI on innovation and training FBI employees. It will be the FBI Academy for the 21st century.
I hope you are right, it just seems odd they would announce they would be making a decision in December only to say "well let's actually now wait until after the election".
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Old 10-25-2016, 09:21 AM
 
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I hope you are right, it just seems odd they would announce they would be making a decision in December only to say "well let's actually now wait until after the election".
Its not too odd. Federal procurement can be tricky. Especially if there is a lot of money on the line. From an acquisition standpoint the decision has to be clear and indisputable to avoid/minimize the award being contested. If one of the non-competitive bids decide to contest (which they probably will), the contracting officer will have to be prepared to potentially defend the award in court. If negotiations are complex or the bidders are asking for more time then the award can justifiably be delayed.
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