MoCo vaccination rate is #1 (Columbia, North Beach: crimes, how much, school)

[DCarea]

MoCo is #1. Highest vaccination rate and covid death rates 8 times lower than national average.

“The most highly vaccinated large county in America, according to New York Times data, is Montgomery County, Md., just outside the District of Columbia. Data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show 93 percent of those 12 and older there are fully vaccinated, compared to around 70 percent nationally. The number dying over the past week is eight times as high nationally — 3.4 per 1 million — as it is in Montgomery County — 0.4 per 1 million — even as Montgomery County is near some virus hotspots.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ination-works/

[hikerMD]

Not too surprising given its level of wealth and education, as well as the presence of numerous health and biotech workers, but that is excellent!


The article doesn't seem to define "large county". Does anyone know the precise definitions they're using?

[westsideboy]

Well done, MoCo. This is a pretty solid data point to show that the vaccine works.

[North Beach Person]

Originally Posted by westsideboy

Well done, MoCo. This is a pretty solid data point to show that the vaccine works.

It does? The County is listed as "Substantial Transmission" as of yesterday. Well, it's been at that for a while.

What I found interesting, and I had never looked until now, is that Montgomery had substantial fewer cases than Prince George's but only twenty fewer deaths up until yesterday.

https://montgomerycountymd.gov/covid...coverings.html

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/covid19/data/

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...vid-cases.html

[westsideboy]

Originally Posted by North Beach Person

It does? The County is listed as "Substantial Transmission" as of yesterday. Well, it's been at that for a while.

What I found interesting, and I had never looked until now, is that Montgomery had substantial fewer cases than Prince George's but only twenty fewer deaths up until yesterday.

https://montgomerycountymd.gov/covid...coverings.html

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/covid19/data/

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...vid-cases.html

Compare to a county with 47% vaccination rate like mine once the cyber attack on the MD Health Dept. site has been taken care.

We had 20 deaths from COVID in November. MoCo had 12 despite being like 15X or so our size, and that remains the vaxxes biggest benefit, greatly reduces the rate of serious illness and death.

Omicron could turn most of this on its head though. We will see, but it seems extremely contagious and it is unknown whether/how much vaccination or previous infection protects you from catching it. Early data seems to say this variant has less incidents of severe cases, so keep your fingers crossed.

[The Very Man Himself]

NPR had a piece recently which showed that people in red counties were on average 3 times more likely to die from Covid than blue counties. In October, the reddest 10th was 10 times more likely than the bluest 10th. That number came down to 6 in November.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...vid-death-rate

[North Beach Person]

Originally Posted by The Very Man Himself

NPR had a piece recently which showed that people in red counties were on average 3 times more likely to die from Covid than blue counties. In October, the reddest 10th was 10 times more likely than the bluest 10th. That number came down to 6 in November.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...vid-death-rate

Did they happen to disaggregate the data as to who it was in those red counties dying and any co-morbidities involved?

The problem with the "Red States have this" is that to do so honestly you have to disaggregate the data.

Yes, for example, Alabama may have a high infection/mortality rate but if it's concentrated in one or another population cohort it says nothing about the politics, just a specific demographic's Covid risk.

It's just like Maryland almost always ending up in the Top 10 on one or another Most Dangerous States list. It's never mentioned that those murder/rape/aggravated assault/carjacking/home invasion crimes occur primarily in a couple jurisdictions. And drilling it down further, small areas of those couple jurisdictions.

[The Very Man Himself]

Originally Posted by North Beach Person

Did they happen to disaggregate the data as to who it was in those red counties dying and any co-morbidities involved?

The problem with the "Red States have this" is that to do so honestly you have to disaggregate the data.

Yes, for example, Alabama may have a high infection/mortality rate but if it's concentrated in one or another population cohort it says nothing about the politics, just a specific demographic's Covid risk.

It's just like Maryland almost always ending up in the Top 10 on one or another Most Dangerous States list. It's never mentioned that those murder/rape/aggravated assault/carjacking/home invasion crimes occur primarily in a couple jurisdictions. And drilling it down further, small areas of those couple jurisdictions.

The link tells you all the info they provided. I know nothing more. Beyond gender, and age cohort, not sure how you disaggregate a rural county of say, less than 50,000. I don't believe co-morbidities are included in national stats, so including them in this subset wouldn't make sense.

[westsideboy]

Originally Posted by The Very Man Himself

NPR had a piece recently which showed that people in red counties were on average 3 times more likely to die from Covid than blue counties. In October, the reddest 10th was 10 times more likely than the bluest 10th. That number came down to 6 in November.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...vid-death-rate

Vaccination rate is the difference. Trying to make the variable "Trump vote %" only works because of the correlation between vaccination rate and voter choice in 2020. The causal variable is vaccination rate.

Articles that focus on correlation, not causation, do not help the push to vaccinate. The more the media focuses on partisan divisions, the more partisan divisions strengthen. I'll add that rural counties have more poverty, larger numbers of preexisting conditions, fewer people with access to good health care. We were getting whacked harder in Western Maryland than the rest of the state before any vaccines were available.

[North Beach Person]

Originally Posted by The Very Man Himself

The link tells you all the info they provided. I know nothing more. Beyond gender, and age cohort, not sure how you disaggregate a rural county of say, less than 50,000. I don't believe co-morbidities are included in national stats, so including them in this subset wouldn't make sense.

I don't know. MSDE sure can disaggregate a 900 student school into fifteen different cohorts for test scoring/reporting. I'd think a health department could do the same for a county of 50,000 reporting hospitalizations, mortalities, etc. for a pandemic. Maybe their computers aren't powerful enough or something.

It couldn't be people such as yourself cherry picking data to make a stupid political point which has zero meaning.