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Old 04-19-2012, 03:53 PM
 
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I eagerly await the day that the headlines read "WMATA Shut Down and Restructured; All Managers Fired." Someone seriously needs to kill the culture of complacency and not giving a **** that has infected WMATA like a cancer.
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:07 AM
 
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Machine wasn’t working when man had heart attack on Metro train - Dr. Gridlock - The Washington Post

I eagerly await the day that the headlines read "WMATA Shut Down and Restructured; All Managers Fired." Someone seriously needs to kill the culture of complacency and not giving a **** that has infected WMATA like a cancer.
How do you know if they would have been able to save him? The battery on the defibrillator was dead. It could have died the moment they tried to charge it up. I understand that Metro does have some issues but this isn't one of them. A guy had a heart attack and died. Most systems don't even have them.
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Old 04-20-2012, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Fairfax
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How do you know if they would have been able to save him? The battery on the defibrillator was dead. It could have died the moment they tried to charge it up. I understand that Metro does have some issues but this isn't one of them. A guy had a heart attack and died. Most systems don't even have them.
Err, they had emergency equipment in place which didn't work. Metro authorities say they are inspecting/replacing old units after this incident. The fact that they're just now inspecting them means management there leaves a lot to be desired.

And did you read the part about the station manager not moving quickly to get it? It was another passenger who actually ran to get it. Not even a man dying can shake these cats from their complacency...
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Old 04-20-2012, 07:53 PM
 
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Err, they had emergency equipment in place which didn't work. Metro authorities say they are inspecting/replacing old units after this incident. The fact that they're just now inspecting them means management there leaves a lot to be desired.

And did you read the part about the station manager not moving quickly to get it? It was another passenger who actually ran to get it. Not even a man dying can shake these cats from their complacency...
What's the name of the Union(s) that represent WMATA?
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Old 04-20-2012, 08:43 PM
 
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People who work for Wmata are the laziest and most entitled bunch of people I have ever come accross. Not to mention rude as heck.
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:34 PM
 
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What's the name of the Union(s) that represent WMATA?
I have no idea. Why do you ask? Do you agree or disagree that there are major culture problems in that organization?
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Old 04-21-2012, 09:01 AM
 
Location: London, NYC, DC
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And I'm sure you'd be complaining if it were at a station without one. Look, I'm no supporter of WMATA or its associated unions, but this is one of those things that's just a last priority on almost every level. Most transit systems don't have defibrillators, and I didn't even know Metro had them. We're never going to fix Metro's problems if you can't distinguish outright blame and constructive criticism, in the same way that people who go on and on about capacity issues know nothing about signalling systems or the federal requirement to run the system manually, which is not how it was meant to be run.
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Old 04-23-2012, 04:05 AM
 
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.... on and on about capacity issues know nothing about signalling systems or the federal requirement to run the system manually, which is not how it was meant to be run.
Wait what? There's a requirement to run it manually? Why on earth....? Can you elaborate...

(Not trolling, I'm genuinely curious)
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Old 04-23-2012, 06:12 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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The 2009 Red Line crash was caused by ****ty automatic train operation (ATO) equipment. Metro's been running trains manually ever since, basically until they implement all the NTSB safety recommendations. That's why trains pull up to the front of the platform every damn time instead of stopping so that they're somewhat centered like they used to.
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Old 04-23-2012, 06:46 AM
 
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Err, they had emergency equipment in place which didn't work. Metro authorities say they are inspecting/replacing old units after this incident. The fact that they're just now inspecting them means management there leaves a lot to be desired.

And did you read the part about the station manager not moving quickly to get it? It was another passenger who actually ran to get it. Not even a man dying can shake these cats from their complacency...

My point is, I don't view this as incompetence. Who knows how long the battery was dead? Supposed the battery died a minute before the guy had a heart attack. Metro managers are not EMT's. You can't put this one on Metro. Like I mentioned, most systems don't even have them.
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