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In other words, you are dreaming of a white Republican mayor (a Rudy Giuliani) type to "clean-up" the city and add a little Tea Party conservatism (kill the poor to feed the rich) flavor?
That'll be a tough task because almost 90 percent of the District voters are in the Democratic Party camp.
This is including older upper middle-class white households in Wards 2 and 3. Republican politics is a tough sell even in Georgetown.
This is including the single yuppie professionals who are living in recently gentrified neighborhoods from Columbia Heights to NoMa to Capitol Hill.
This is including a large and growing segment of the gay and lesbian populations from Logan Circle to Takoma Park.
This is including the white hipsters who hang out on H Street.
This is including a growing immigrant population of Latinos and Asians who historically trend with Democratic votes.
This is including a swelling number of 20-somethings moving into The District. And we all know that younger, college-educated people sympathize with more liberal causes and policies.
All of this tells me that DC will remain solidly Democratic for decades and I haven't even acknowledged the shrinking black resident vote.
It would be like me dreaming of a Socialist Workers Party governor in Texas or Utah. Pigs flying. Unicorns on the prairie. Rainbows with a pot gold everywhere, right?
Keep dreamin' dude.
Who said anything about Rudy Guiliani, or any particular type of mayor in general? Certainly not me. You've dreamt up this particular caricature in order to justify the rest of your fallacious talking points.
Also, you throw around numbers such as "90%" to describe Democratic DC voters. Considering that the actual number is 74%, why should I give credence to the rest of your post? I shouldn't.
DC is solidly Democratic. No one is disputing that. But the percentages are moving downward, not upward. While it might be 'decades' in the making, that doesn't mean a Republican shift won't happen.
I know that bothers you, but at least try to be somewhat objective in your assessment instead of throwing around half-baked statistics that you know nothing about.
Barack Obama won the 2008 presidential election with 92 percent of the election vote in DC. The party registration numbers never gives the whole picture. There is a significant block of voters who are independents but they vote along party lines anyway. Trust me, the support for Democratic party candidates is at least 90 percent solid in The District.
And dude...only 6.6 percent of registered voters are Republican in The District. You failed to note that in your reply. So I checked out your DC Elections Board link. I compared the most current party registration numbers (May 31, 2012) that you referenced in your post. Then, I looked at the most historical report of party registration numbers (January 31, 1993).
On May 31, 2012, 6.6 of total registered voters in DC, registered as Republicans.
On January 31, 1993, a total of 7.6 percent registered voters in DC, registered as Republicans.
The Republican Party registration number has declined by 1 percent in a span of 19 years. This does not support your argument very much. The percentages are not trending upwards for the Republicans.
Now again, the party registration numbers do NOT tell the whole story. I would expect more than 6.6 percent of voters in DC to cast their presidential ballot for Mitt Romney in November. But I still see a 90 percent re-election vote for Obama this year.
And BTW...even in super-conservative states like Utah, Wyoming, Mississippi, Oklahoma and others, the Democratic Party has way more than 6.6 percent of registered voters.
The obstacles for Republicans in DC are Mount Everest high. And you are living in a fantasy world.
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Originally Posted by AeroGuyDC
Who said anything about Rudy Guiliani, or any particular type of mayor in general? Certainly not me. You've dreamt up this particular caricature in order to justify the rest of your fallacious talking points.
Also, you throw around numbers such as "90%" to describe Democratic DC voters. Considering that the actual number is 74%, why should I give credence to the rest of your post? I shouldn't.
DC is solidly Democratic. No one is disputing that. But the percentages are moving downward, not upward. While it might be 'decades' in the making, that doesn't mean a Republican shift won't happen.
I know that bothers you, but at least try to be somewhat objective in your assessment instead of throwing around half-baked statistics that you know nothing about.
Barack Obama won the 2008 presidential election with 92 percent of the election vote in DC. The party registration numbers never gives the whole picture. There is a significant block of voters who are independents but they vote along party lines anyway. Trust me, the support for Democratic party candidates is at least 90 percent solid in The District.
And dude...only 6.6 percent of registered voters are Republican in The District. You failed to note that in your reply. So I checked out your DC Elections Board link. I compared the most current party registration numbers (May 31, 2012) that you referenced in your post. Then, I looked at the most historical report of party registration numbers (January 31, 1993).
On May 31, 2012, 6.6 of total registered voters in DC, registered as Republicans.
On January 31, 1993, a total of 7.6 percent registered voters in DC, registered as Republicans.
The Republican Party registration number has declined by 1 percent in a span of 19 years. This does not support your argument very much. The percentages are not trending upwards for the Republicans.
Now again, the party registration numbers do NOT tell the whole story. I would expect more than 6.6 percent of voters in DC to cast their presidential ballot for Mitt Romney in November. But I still see a 90 percent re-election vote for Obama this year.
And BTW...even in super-conservative states like Utah, Wyoming, Mississippi, Oklahoma and others, the Democratic Party has way more than 6.6 percent of registered voters.
The obstacles for Republicans in DC are Mount Everest high. And you are living in a fantasy world.
Again, you come off with half-cocked theory to support your notions. Is there any particular reason you decided to ignore:
1) That I have stated forthrightly that a Republican shift will not happen overnight and that "decades" is more likely? Whatever attempt you're trying to make to put my declarations into some sort of short timeframe box is just ignorant.
2) The portion of the statistics that show approximately 19% show no party affiliation? Theoretically, that's about 25% of the vote that could go to Republicans, in addition to the Democrats who could be fence-sitters, thereby making an election extremely close with the right candidate.
In other words, you're doing your best to make the case that there will be NO conservative shift in Washington DC, but yet you have nothing to show that such a shift won't take place. All you have are anecdotes about hispanics....LGBT.....hipsters......blah blah blah. They make sense in your mind, but anecdotes arent' political science. Hell, I can come up anecdotes that are diametrically opposed to yours and try to pass them off as fact. But i'm not that shallow.
Regarding your 1993 - 2012 comparison: You think you've shown me something crucial here. You haven't. Why? Because demographic shifts in DC tend to follow national party politics. In 1993, we had a DEMOCRAT in office. It stands to reason that DC saw an influx of DEMOCRATS. The same would be for 2008-2012, right? Right. Interestingly, you failed to mention that DC saw an uptick in REPUBLICAN voters during the 2004 Bush elections. WOW....amazing huh? Went right over your head didn't it? Of course it did.....because it satifies your partisan hackery.
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Location: YOU are NOT a Washingtonian. YOU are a GENTRIFIER from the CVS, Whole Foods, Starbucks & Condos era.
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Yeah, the crackhouses on every block and fiscal idiocy with a hint of murder are just so much better.
He was being sarcastic.
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Yes.. I think this trend could be described as Gentrification. What a horrible thing that is destroying the cultural fabric of this once great (circa 1968-1994) city.
You know nothing about 1968-1994 Washington DC because you were not living here back then. Your sarcasm holds no weight.
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I believe the days of Institutionalized Democratic Corruption™ are numbered. Gentrification is taking over the city....higher class citizens are moving in at a swift pace, which will hopefully rattle the Democratic Planatation to it's core and shake out the apathetic poverty vote that currently gives way to such incompetents.
You must be new to DC.
There were already higher class citizens in DC way before gentrification.
You think all the higher class citizens will lead to the elimination incompetents?
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You must be new to DC. There were already higher class citizens in DC way before gentrification.
You think all the higher class citizens will lead to the elimination incompetents?
I'm pretty sure it's common knowledge that DC has historically comprised of a two-class society. However, the gentrification taking place is not necessarily that of the highest echelons....it's newfound middle class that DC is not renowned for. Most of the new apartment buildings/condos being built in areas that were previously crime-ridden leech-fests are priced in such a way that the average young white collar professional can enjoy without having to live in the ghetto. One way or another, this demographic shift will either result in an even stronger Democratic voter base, or it will level out the conservative/liberal distribution a bit. For that reason, I believe that it's probable that the traditional crony that runs for office in DC will be held more accountable, and thereby producing more quality candidates in the future. The days of the Marion Barry poverty vote are headed for the dust bin of history, even if it means that Democrats will hold a majority.
Location: Standing outside of heaven, wating for God to come and get me.
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Flip Saunders?
I don't do starbucks but I do like the condo's... Hate I am leaving by beloved Southwest for NOMA.
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