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Old 08-10-2012, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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Nobody likes my second idea?
Since I live out that way, I wouldn't mind that idea.
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Old 08-10-2012, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I take it most people posting on here live in the DC suburbs rather than the city. When I created this thread, I thought that most of the discussion would revolve around how to service core DC neighborhoods with a heavy rail line (i.e., Adams-Morgan, H Street, Georgetown, etc.). Thus far, I've seen more discussion about Northern Virginia. Not that anything's wrong with that.
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Old 08-10-2012, 01:59 PM
 
Location: The Port City is rising.
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I take it most people posting on here live in the DC suburbs rather than the city. When I created this thread, I thought that most of the discussion would revolve around how to service core DC neighborhoods with a heavy rail line (i.e., Adams-Morgan, H Street, Georgetown, etc.). Thus far, I've seen more discussion about Northern Virginia. Not that anything's wrong with that.

1. this is still the default forum for regional issues, I think.

2. I think a seperated blue line would serve many urgent DC issues. It would provide stations on Georgetown, in the Atlas District as well as adding station capacity and transfer capacity downtown. And better access to Union Station as you pointed out.

Given the geography, I think most new lines in DC will implicate one suburban area or another. New lines in northern DC would naturally create capacity for needed extensions in Maryland.
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Old 08-10-2012, 02:17 PM
 
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I take it most people posting on here live in the DC suburbs rather than the city. When I created this thread, I thought that most of the discussion would revolve around how to service core DC neighborhoods with a heavy rail line (i.e., Adams-Morgan, H Street, Georgetown, etc.). Thus far, I've seen more discussion about Northern Virginia. Not that anything's wrong with that.
The thing is that anything done to the city would have to affect the suburbs and vice versa. I think Maryland and Virginia put more into WMATA than DC itself does. As some of us said earlier, there really needs to be a new crossing into DC from VA. Plus both VA and MD have a lot of suburbs that should have been included in the system but weren't due to the fact that most of those neighborhoods were rural in the 60's. A lot of people use the metro to commute from their job than for leisure. The whole system really needs a redesign at a certain point since people want service in more areas.
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Old 08-10-2012, 02:49 PM
 
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How long does it take to build a metro system/line? I was a teen when Columbia Heights first opened, so to me it was night and day. But building a system, underground, all this takes years doesn't it? At least 5?
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Old 08-10-2012, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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How long does it take to build a metro system/line? I was a teen when Columbia Heights first opened, so to me it was night and day. But building a system, underground, all this takes years doesn't it? At least 5?
It took them 4 years to build the N.Y. Ave. metro station, which is above ground and already located along an existing line. That might give you some idea of how long it might take to build an underground line. It took them 15 years to build the Green Line. Construction of the Second Avenue Subway in NYC broke ground in 2007 and *should* be finished by 2016.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NoMa_%E...(WMATA_station)
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Old 08-10-2012, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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How long does it take to build a metro system/line? I was a teen when Columbia Heights first opened, so to me it was night and day. But building a system, underground, all this takes years doesn't it? At least 5?
The construction of the entire original Metro system went from like 1975 to 2001. The NY Avenue, Morgan Blvd, and Largo stations were opened in 2004 but were not part of the original plan.
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Old 08-11-2012, 01:09 AM
 
Location: WASHINGTON, D.C.
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How long does it take to build a metro system/line? I was a teen when Columbia Heights first opened, so to me it was night and day. But building a system, underground, all this takes years doesn't it? At least 5?
Too long....

I was only 8 or 9 when that station opened....
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Old 08-11-2012, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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I take it most people posting on here live in the DC suburbs rather than the city. When I created this thread, I thought that most of the discussion would revolve around how to service core DC neighborhoods with a heavy rail line (i.e., Adams-Morgan, H Street, Georgetown, etc.). Thus far, I've seen more discussion about Northern Virginia. Not that anything's wrong with that.
I guess that wasn't made clear enough in the original post. If you wanted it to focus only on DC then say that at the beginning. Other than the Blue line suggestion what other parts of the city need Metro? I think the city is fairly well covered by Metro, with certain exceptions.
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Old 08-11-2012, 11:11 AM
 
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How long does it take to build a metro system/line? I was a teen when Columbia Heights first opened, so to me it was night and day. But building a system, underground, all this takes years doesn't it? At least 5?
I would say it takes 20 years to build a full line. Metro was in planning when it was first created in 1966. They broke ground in late 1969, with the first 4 stations being opened in 1976 (RED LINE). This, of course does not take in account the time spent before the creation of WMATA. I would say the core of DC's system was finished in 82 or 84. Then financing issues happened, the Green line drama, and other random stuff so we make it 50 years to build a full system.

It takes about 5 years to build a couple extensions. I think that's what it took for Morgan Blvd and Largo to be added.
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