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Old 01-22-2013, 03:19 PM
 
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A Michael Horsley took tons of photos of the "mean" streets of DC from 1984-1994: well before the age of gentrification hit the Nations Capital. Check out his Flickr account if you haven't already.

Hidden Washington DC - a set on Flickr

Sigh. I will miss the old DC. You were cheap for working poor and students alike. You were friendly before the age of the wireless mobile device and computer tablets. You were dirtier and smellier. You were so poor that you didn't have two dimes in your pocket. You had a more delicious chocolate flavor as opposed to the yucky vanilla swirl flavor of today. You killed too many young people dealing those grams of crack cocaine though. Drugs overdoses, rising homelessness and street crew shootings overwhelmed the city--this I don't miss. You had a flawed mayor who made a priority of building a middle-class black foundation through DC government jobs and favorable contracts. That same mayor was caught with crack pipe in a hotel room. You were kind to family-owned businesses regardless of skin color. You offered cutting-edge punk rock music and Go-Go beats to the working people and students who felt they mattered when they moved to the beats in concert. The Skins played their Sundays at a rocking RFK Stadium.

New money and new people were too much for Old DC. What a shame and a relief.
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Old 01-22-2013, 03:49 PM
 
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You had a more delicious chocolate flavor as opposed to the yucky vanilla swirl flavor of today.
Uh... Seriously?
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Old 01-22-2013, 03:58 PM
 
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Uh, yeah. Whole neighborhood blocks changed culture. This is because one dominant culture has the money and power over another culture. This is what makes gentrification so yucky. It's not about black and white residents co-habitating or more affluent residents co-habitating with more poorer people on city blocks. It's one giant sweep of the broom against minorities and working-class people.

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Uh... Seriously?
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Old 01-22-2013, 04:24 PM
 
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DC is more diverse today. In fact, the hispanic population has roughly doubled since 1990. So has the Asian population. Gentrification isn't just good for "yucky white people." That kind of sharp racism has no place on this forum or among anyone with any semblance of decency or respect for others.

I would never talk about another race of people as "yucky" and you should embarrassed you have to stoop so low to get your point across.
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Old 01-22-2013, 04:32 PM
 
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I'm sure all the people who sold their homes at a hefty profit are really mad about being "swept aside" by the gentrifiers. I'm sure you really had to put a gun to someone's head to sell the home they bought at 30k now at 300k.
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Old 01-22-2013, 04:35 PM
 
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The culture of perpetual victimhood never meshes well with the actual reality of events.
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Old 01-22-2013, 04:53 PM
 
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The culture of perpetual victimhood never meshes well with the actual reality of events.
Particularly when it's affected white-guilt victimhood expressed at a safe distance from the supposed victims.
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Old 01-22-2013, 05:42 PM
 
Location: DC
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Uh, yeah. Whole neighborhood blocks changed culture. This is because one dominant culture has the money and power over another culture. This is what makes gentrification so yucky. It's not about black and white residents co-habitating or more affluent residents co-habitating with more poorer people on city blocks. It's one giant sweep of the broom against minorities and working-class people.
Nonsense, all of the recently "gentrified" neighborhoods are diverse. My neighborhood, not recently integrated, has been stable with a very diverse population for over 50 years.
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Old 01-22-2013, 11:05 PM
 
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The failure of all of coldbliss' argument is always that he chooses some arbitrary point - conveniently the most violent, disinvested period in DC's history - to call "true". Any improvements or investments made thereafter are deemed "yucky". Any thriving middle class - even reaching about 70% white people in DC - before that arbitrary time is deemed irrelevant to serve his perceived class warfare.

The whole reason DC became "Chocolate City" was because the culture in control chose to move to the suburbs, essentially forcing the culture not in control to remain in or move to the city, whether they liked it or not.

He somehow sees the result of a prior era's oppression as an ideal to protect and aspire to, which makes his goals as racist or classist as the worst targets of his angst. While there's certainly a kernel of truth in his argument that one group should not be able to push out another group, fighting against investments in the city after years of neglect is not the answer. Better to manipulate the market so that it produces the desired effect of income diversity, which is what we do and which is why there remains significant diversity even with gentrification.

One of the best ways to keep neighborhoods affordable is to build (i.e. gentrify). Projections are that rents will drop in the city (or at least slow down) once all the new units being constructed come on line. But for someone who fundamentally opposes our system of private property and investment, that's not an acceptable argument. Vacant lots and mom-and-pop property owners unable to fill vacancies somehow makes more sense to this individual.

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Old 01-23-2013, 01:37 PM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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The time frame referred to by the OP (1984-1994) was probably the worst period in the city's history. Who in his right mind could be nostalgic for that?
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