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Old 09-21-2015, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Silver Spring, MD
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This isn't just Baltimore, it's happening to lots of areas all over the country as people come to DC cause that's where they can build their career and where the jobs are. You can substitute Baltimore with, Philly, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Detroit... etc..

I would run into so many people from the Motor City in the past 2 years down here...

Baltimore has a unique situation in being close and just too easy to tap into DC to some degree, that's about the only difference.
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Old 09-21-2015, 03:51 PM
 
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*Agreed!!! Majority of these are older East Coast/Mid-West rust-belt cities and Baltimore is in a prime location because it can access the metros of other cities on the Eastern seaboard pretty easily.


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This isn't just Baltimore, it's happening to lots of areas all over the country as people come to DC cause that's where they can build their career and where the jobs are. You can substitute Baltimore with, Philly, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Detroit... etc..

I would run into so many people from the Motor City in the past 2 years down here...

Baltimore has a unique situation in being close and just too easy to tap into DC to some degree, that's about the only difference.
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Old 09-21-2015, 03:58 PM
 
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"White suburban anxiety about black city residents commuting to suburban office parks and schools also played a part I suspect..."

*Ok! This an interesting point that has been reverberated from many residents inside and outside of Baltimore. I'd be called a reverse racist if I expressed the exact same sentiment.

"If you are a Republican governor with an anti-urban development bias, where do you put your dollars?"

*Another interesting point! Do you think Hogan has an anti-urban development bias?! This may be a possible thread that require more investigation?





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Gov. Hogan gave a big middle finger to Baltimore. White suburban anxiety about black city residents commuting to suburban office parks and schools also played a part I suspect. Baltimore County is in a completely racial/political universe from the City. Been that way for at least 50 years now.

Here's the thing...Montgomery County is already affluent and enjoys super low unemployment. The State decides to build a light rail line in a region that is already flush with jobs and cash. That's called ROI. Developers can expect handsome profits for their properties near Purple Line stations. Building a rail line between Baltimore and its suburbs is far riskier and is thus perceived as a public works project. If you are a Republican governor with an anti-urban development bias, where do you put your dollars? Montgomery County wins every time.
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Old 09-21-2015, 08:04 PM
 
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Baltimore is doomed simply because there is nothing about Baltimore to draw people towards it when DC is so close. Its like Newark New Jersey compared to NYC.

When you have a large, cosmopolitan, vibrant, wealthy and powerful city near you.. there is simply no competition. The more iconic city will get the best people and the lower tier city will get the leftovers.
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Old 09-21-2015, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Baltimore is doomed simply because there is nothing about Baltimore to draw people towards it when DC is so close. Its like Newark New Jersey compared to NYC.

When you have a large, cosmopolitan, vibrant, wealthy and powerful city near you.. there is simply no competition. The more iconic city will get the best people and the lower tier city will get the leftovers.
Bad comparison, assumption, and exaggeration. For one Newark is only 8 miles west of Manhattan and DC is not New York and Baltimore is not Newark, and I'm sure there is nothing about Baltimore to draw people in because you said so. When you have arrogant boosters this is the best response you will get!^^^^

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Old 09-21-2015, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Prince George's County, Maryland
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Baltimore is doomed simply because there is nothing about Baltimore to draw people towards it when DC is so close. Its like Newark New Jersey compared to NYC.

When you have a large, cosmopolitan, vibrant, wealthy and powerful city near you.. there is simply no competition. The more iconic city will get the best people and the lower tier city will get the leftovers.
Baltimore still has somewhat of a decent draw to lure people but you're right for the most part. However, I'd say DC and Baltimore are more like San Francisco and Oakland than NYC and Newark.
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Old 09-21-2015, 10:56 PM
 
Location: Macao
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Baltimore is doomed simply because there is nothing about Baltimore to draw people towards it when DC is so close. Its like Newark New Jersey compared to NYC.

When you have a large, cosmopolitan, vibrant, wealthy and powerful city near you.. there is simply no competition. The more iconic city will get the best people and the lower tier city will get the leftovers.
Not entirely. For me, I would find a city LIKE Baltimore attractive. I mean, a large cheap affordable city NEXT to with very close proximity to a monster powerful one like DC. It's way more interesting to have 'the best of both worlds' like that.

The real problem is Baltimore itself. The problems are too enormous.
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Old 09-22-2015, 05:47 AM
 
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I have family and friends from Newark, Hoboken, Irvington and West New York, NJ who say Baltimore reminds them of Newark circa' 1970's in so many ways. Lol!



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Bad comparison, assumption, and exaggeration. For one Newark is only 8 miles west of Manhattan and DC is not New York and Baltimore is not Newark, and I'm sure there is nothing about Baltimore to draw people in because you said so. When you have arrogant boosters this is the best response you will get!^^^^
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Old 09-22-2015, 05:48 AM
 
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"The real problem is Baltimore itself."

*Could you please explain what you mean by this statement?





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Not entirely. For me, I would find a city LIKE Baltimore attractive. I mean, a large cheap affordable city NEXT to with very close proximity to a monster powerful one like DC. It's way more interesting to have 'the best of both worlds' like that.

The real problem is Baltimore itself. The problems are too enormous.
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Old 09-22-2015, 07:17 PM
 
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What I think is interesting is that the educational attainment of Baltimore's population has increased dramatically over the past few years to just below the national average. Baltimoreans under age 50 have attainments a little above the national average. Sometimes I feel that the problem is with the old guard: people (my age) that are still in control of the city government and other institutions who are particularly impressive (to me anyway.) Anyway, if trends continue, there will be plenty of brain power in Baltimore and the very real drain of brains to DC won't make as much difference.
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