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Developers will all just flock to Arlington I guess. The fact that the 5 tallest buildings in the DC area will be 1/2 a mile over the DC border (in Rosslyn) by 2017 just speaks volumes to the idiocy of the height limit.
Washington D.C. has a lot of land left to develop. The height limit is the sole reason the rest of the city is developing. Changing the height limit now would stop the outward development march across the entire city and turn D.C. into Philly where development only happens in center city.
The reason D.C. has changed so much is the height limit. There isn't a city anywhere in the nation that has ever changed as fast as D.C. has from 2006-2016. Development just doesn't happen in the neighborhoods that fast in most cities. It happens downtown for years before there is enough demand to move out of the downtown area because of a lack of height limits.
The reason D.C. has changed so much is the height limit. There isn't a city anywhere in the nation that has ever changed as fast as D.C. has from 2006-2016. Development just doesn't happen in the neighborhoods that fast in most cities. It happens downtown for years before there is enough demand to move out of the downtown area because of a lack of height limits.
Which leads me to believe that height limits aren't such a bad thing. Perhaps DC was on to something.
Developers will all just flock to Arlington I guess.
You talk as if it is geographically impossible to develop east of the river. lol Examples of developments were already provided showing how development is starting to spread to neighborhoods east of the river.
It's a two way street though. Development might be flowing east and over the Anacostia but it's also flowing west and over the Potomac.
The projected growth for the region is mainly in Washington D.C. proper and the demand to live in D.C. proper is at an all-time high and will only rise. There is a reason D.C. proper will have more units under construction in a single neighborhood called Capital Riverfront than the entire county of Arlington. D.C. is the city and Arlington is a suburb of this city.
The Rossyln-Ballston corridor, Pentagon City, and Crystal City are very nice for a suburb, but its not the city. It's a TOD at the end of the day. It's basically Hoboken or Jersey city which are very nice, but will never be Manhattan. D.C. is adding more storefront retail, multi-family housing, and chef driven restaurants than anywhere else in the entire region and its not close. That is how it's supposed to be though since D.C. is the city and Virginia and Maryland are the suburbs.
The suburbs will get their fair share of development, but it will never compare to D.C. which is consistent with all major cities around the world.
Which leads me to believe that height limits aren't such a bad thing. Perhaps DC was on to something.
No, they aren't and they're the only way to redevelop a city at this pace. You have to restrict demand so it can flair out. Once the entire city is built-out, that is when the height limit will be changed, but we will look more like Paris than ever before at that point with 10-14 story mixed use highrises's running for miles in all direction's and density over 16,000 people per sq. mile.
[quote=adelphi_sky;43710691]People don't realize that as crime continues to decrease, it doesn't matter where development occurs. Gentrification specifically seeks out low-to-mid income areas. These areas are prevalent east of the river.
I'd probably agree with you if crime was actually going down in many parts of the city. EOR is still no joke, especially if you have to live in many of those neighborhoods day in and day out.
It's almost like the laws of physics. All that racial redlining stuff is in the past. Like I said, you have a generation now that doesn't mind living in diverse neighborhoods.
You do realize that DC proper is one of the most segregated cities in the country right? As far as redlining being stuff of the past. All you have to do is look at PGC and Charles County to see that's not true. The more things change the more they stay the same.
I'd probably agree with you if crime was actually going down in many parts of the city. EOR is still no joke, especially if you have to live in many of those neighborhoods day in and day out.
I think we all are looking at this contextually. WE're not describing micro-changes. Has crime decreased since last year? Maybe not, but has it decreased since the last decade, I'd argue yes. What we're talking about is a change that will take one to two more decades. Not next year. IN that context, crime is decreasing, developers are taking notice, hence the many projects EOTR spoken of earlier.
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You do realize that DC proper is one of the most segregated cities in the country right? As far as redlining being stuff of the past. All you have to do is look at PGC and Charles County to see that's not true. The more things change the more they stay the same.
I'm well aware of that. And that segregation was the result of Jim Crow in the past. Does Jim Crow still exist? Slavery? Redlining? No. Not redlining in the sense that it was back in the 50's when it was supported and even implemented by the government. Gentrification is the new battlefront. And it is more about socioeconomic class today than it was about race in the past.
You will always have pockets of poverty. DC is no different. That won't stop gentrification and revitalization in other areas. Especially in Ward 8 and Ward 7. Poor people have been displaced in the past. It can happen again. It is up to DC to figure out how to serve both new wealth and old poverty.
I really wish this development could be such that it is not a clean-sweep gentrification move.
You cant just kick out the long term lower-middle class and middle class DC residents from the ghetto areas.
The solution to the predicament in those areas is better and stricter policing, youth outreach and development, combined with non-gentrification-type business and entertainment initiatives ... not just gentrifying the sh** out of every damn corner of the city.
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