03-31-2011, 05:20 PM
Location: NC
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Looking for the best towns to live in between Everett and Ft. Lewis? Where would you recommend that would be safe and a somewhat equal commute between the two?
03-31-2011, 05:39 PM
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Do you want the commute to be equal in time or in distance? What else makes a town the "best"? (Fortunately, there isn't just one "best", or most of us would be left out.)
03-31-2011, 06:10 PM
Location: Spokane, WA
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Seattle and slightly south of there is probably your best bet. Can't help much else without some specifics.
03-31-2011, 06:40 PM
Location: DuPont, WA
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All I can say is I feel sorry for you!!! That's going to be a heck of a commute to both locations. Traffic here is HORRIBLE. We used to live in Federal Way which is ~25 miles north of Ft Lewis. The morning commute for my husband was not too bad as he left the house at 5:15 am, but the afternoon commute was terrible. On a good day it would take him 45 minutes to an hour, but on a bad day it would take anywhere from an hour and a half to two. Going north to Everett would be just as bad if not worse from anywhere Seattle/south.
03-31-2011, 06:42 PM
Location: NC
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Quote:
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sll3454
Do you want the commute to be equal in time or in distance? What else makes a town the "best"? (Fortunately, there isn't just one "best", or most of us would be left out.)
Time over distance. Yes, you are right, best is in the eye of the beholder. Mainly looking for some suggestions to research further. Would prefer suburbs/rural over urban city living but not some where totally out in the middle of nowhere if that makes sense. Just wondering if there were some decent locations in between the two areas since we'd be commuting in opposite directions....
03-31-2011, 06:45 PM
Location: NC
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All I can say is I feel sorry for you!!! That's going to be a heck of a commute to both locations. Traffic here is HORRIBLE. We used to live in Federal Way which is ~25 miles north of Ft Lewis. The morning commute for my husband was not too bad as he left the house at 5:15 am, but the afternoon commute was terrible. On a good day it would take him 45 minutes to an hour, but on a bad day it would take anywhere from an hour and a half to two. Going north to Everett would be just as bad if not worse from anywhere Seattle/south.
Where is the traffic coming from? The Seattle area? Does the highway infrastructure not support the traffic? I have the option to transfer within my current company to Everett, and he would be PCSing to Ft. Lewis - so I have the flexibility as far as job location, he's stuck where he's at. Hard to research the area having never been there so I'm trying to get some info from the locals.
How do you like living in WA?
03-31-2011, 08:14 PM
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Where is the traffic coming from? The Seattle area? Does the highway infrastructure not support the traffic? I have the option to transfer within my current company to Everett, and he would be PCSing to Ft. Lewis - so I have the flexibility as far as job location, he's stuck where he's at .
Oh, wow... that does suck.
There's a lot of bottlenecks between Everett and Ft. Lewis. 75 miles separate the two cities. Even if you decide to meet somewhere in the middle and live in... say Renton. If driving during regular commuting hours, you'll still looking at over an hour (and a half) driving time. Driving south would be a tad easier for your man.
A lot of people do live outside of Seattle and commute to work in Seattle and ultimately, there's only so much room for the freeway to expand. The worst bottlenecks are in the DT Seattle area and the Tacoma s-curves (passing DT Tacoma). 405 is not much better, and in fact recently was mentioned being in the top ten worst congestion spot in the US (
50 Worst Commutes: America's Highways to Hell - The Daily Beast ). There's also other sources saying Seattle is 10th in the nation for worst congestion (shared with ATL).
Is there any other locations in the Seattle area you can look at?
03-31-2011, 08:55 PM
Location: DuPont, WA
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There are two major freeways that run north-south - checkout mapquest to see I-5 and I-405. You can also check out
Welcome to the Washington State Department of Transportation for traffic cameras during the times you would be commuting. I stand by what I said earlier - anywhere half way between Everett and Ft Lewis will be a bear of a commute to both locations.
You say PCS - so I take it you are a military spouse as well. Think about this - if your husband has to report to formation at ~6 am, from a half way point he would need to leave no later than 4:30-4:45 am. If he leaves work by 5:00 pm (which is fairly normal here at Lewis), he will be looking at at least an hour and a half to two hour commute. That pretty much means a 14+ hour day for him
Traffic getting out of Ft Lewis is pretty bad on most days. Of course, if he has an MOS that works off hours, it wouldn't be quite so bad. We live in DuPont about 2 miles from one of the gates. We don't attempt to go anywhere after about 3 pm on week days due to traffic and wait until at least 6:30 pm.
I don't mean to be Debbie Downer, but there is no way I'd do it. Both I-5 and I405 can get extremely backed up during rush hour, going in either direction. I've lived here my entire life so speak from years of experience. We are looking to PCS when my husband returns from his current deployment, and I cannot wait to get away from this traffic!
04-01-2011, 08:57 AM
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Look east, around where 18 crosses I-90.
04-01-2011, 11:50 AM
Location: DuPont, WA
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Sorry, but the commute out of Ft Lewis via 512/167 is equally as bad as I-5 in the afternoons. I have friends that make that commute regularly. It is a bear as well! While it might be a tad bit better, there are only two lanes in each direction and it can get extremely backed up. The merge onto I-405 from 167 can be a nightmare during rush hour, too. I have friend who live in Puyallup off 512, which much closer to Ft Lewis than the area you mention, and it takes the husband at least 45 minutes on a good day. The area you suggest is at least another 45 minutes beyond that, again, on a good day! Anyway you look at it, this will be a horrible commute both ways.
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Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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Traffic getting out of Ft Lewis is pretty bad on most days. Of course, if he has an MOS that works off hours, it wouldn't be quite so bad. We live in DuPont about 2 miles from one of the gates. We don't attempt to go anywhere after about 3 pm on week days due to traffic and wait until at least 6:30 pm.
