07-29-2012, 06:03 PM
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The farther away from the cities, it seems you get the better land deals but that is also where the crime seems to be increasing the most. The cities (speculation) were just getting too expensive for many of the criminals. They can get more drugs with the money saved on rent and the rural law enforcement tends to be friendlier to them. The junkies have really been hitting the small rural properties hard in WA lately, especially if the driveway isn't gated. Mostly just burglaries, but (here in the Port Angeles area and Olympic Peninsula) there have been a few armed robberies and home invasions. Mostly in places where it would take the police a while to respond. Some of the theft is kind of odd---one of the farms by PA had a few llamas stolen and in the national forest the junkies stole one of the bridges.
Also agree with NB, as I am in Sequim often and a good number of the S Cal transplants have been really unhappy lately. 2009 was the last year that had early/long/late summer and seasons; 2010 and 2011 were quite a bit rainier and colder. I talked to a few that were putting their dream homes back up for sale so they could move back to CA. The 9 months of being trapped in their homes finally broke them.
Well, this is certainly something to be concerned about, if in fact these wonderful islands with their small town living are being inundated and ruined by crime. I would have never guessed that this would be such a high concern. I suppose it would be silly to ask if any one particular island is or is not experiencing this very thing because I'm sure if any one of them is, the chances are the others are as well. Why would one be less susceptible than the others? Unless, like you said, the police response is much quicker (?). And I suppose there are no gated communities on these islands (I know, wishful thinking).
Well, this is all very disconcerting to say the least, but good to have a heads up so we know the right questions to ask allowing us to make wiser decisions on where to build.
Still not concerned about the weather. Thanks for your input rainforest338.
07-30-2012, 11:20 PM
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...And we were doing so well with no
negative Nigels . Of course, we understand we need to come out, spend time there, most likely
multiple times, to get a better feel for where we want to build. This is common sense. Something as important as this, one definitely needs to put
a lot of thought/research into it. If you don't, we'll you're an idiot and simply welcoming disaster. Again, common sense (and I realize it's true, some people haven't any common sense, so there's always that need to want to point things out to that percentage of people who you know are out there). We are not only very thorough, but we are
extremely meticulous people who know exactly what we want. We also realize that this will be a learning process as we go since this is our first time building. But we are wise individuals and would never go blindly into something as big as this.
Regarding the weather, as I mentioned in my initial post, I am originally from NW Indiana and so I know what extreme weather is – lived it my entire life up until 12 yrs. ago. Trust me, I can handle WA weather! So yes, we are aware of what Washington's weather has to offer us (again, after much thought), and are so looking forward to it. Plus (and this is a huge factor), since we work at home, we would not be commuting or venturing out when the weather is less favorable, as opposed to the peeps who have no choice and would be and might get tired of it. So see, we're not your average S. Californian.
We're also huge believers in
positive thinking. As I mentioned before, we wholeheartedly believe that our perfect land in our perfect community is just waiting for us and because it is meant for us, everything else will just fall into place and it will be perfect for us in every way.
As far as the meth heads go, that is so unfortunate and extremely disheartening that that even has to be a concern for such a beautiful area. But yes, for
sure we would research the safety logs for a particular area before making our final decision and talk with many of the locals to get any details that we can. That's a given!
Thanks so much for your input and the heads up on potential land differences between summer and winter. Great advice!
"Negative Nigel?" Surely you must be joking. But, after reading this: "
As far as the meth heads go, that is so unfortunate and extremely disheartening that that even has to be a concern for such a beautiful area, " I realize how impressionable you are. Good luck.
07-31-2012, 08:21 AM
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I recommend staying on paved roads and within 20 min of towns. I have a very remote / quiet place that is 5 min from a nice sized town. Paved road, EZ commute and only 20 mi to a GREAT international airport (with $39 flights to CA for sun
)
BUT nearby there are plenty of meth-heads. The only 'crime' I've dealt with is when they took hundreds of # of iron antiques to scrap yard (I had brought from grandpa's farm in Nebraska for 'yard-art')... I was really upset, but such is life (and I am NOT AT ALL into the positive thinking thing...).
I would stick to decent access areas NOT on dead end roads. There are plenty of problems in the woods, including drunks with BIG guns, and a pretty good crop of illegal growers from across the MEX border. They clear out areas hidden from view (EZ when blackberry bushes are 20' tall) and they set booby traps (trip wire shotguns) and such, Gotta be SMART about it (living in paradise...).
Some of my friends have had to flee due to crazy neighbors (wives / kids don't feel safe at home) BEST not to be tucked into the woods. I rarely have bullets zooming by, but it happens occasionally. (Less after I started trap shooting around my house and property). Popping off a few shots in the late of night seem to keep the neighbors from becoming too big of bully. It is healthy to establish some SPACE. Sheriff? Mine is usually well over an hour away (in the 'troublesome' part of the county). My area is very well mannered compared to many.
There are plenty of Wackos everywhere. Don't invite trouble by moving in next to them. (hence the GREAT idea to buy a BIG parcel and CHOOSE your own neighbors buy selling lots / houses to the right folks).
Ask around, get to know the locals, BE SMART.
07-31-2012, 10:05 AM
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I recommend staying on paved roads and within 20 min of towns. I have a very remote / quiet place that is 5 min from a nice sized town. Paved road, EZ commute and only 20 mi to a GREAT international airport (with $39 flights to CA for sun
)
BUT nearby there are plenty of meth-heads. The only 'crime' I've dealt with is when they took hundreds of # of iron antiques to scrap yard (I had brought from grandpa's farm in Nebraska for 'yard-art')... I was really upset, but such is life (and I am NOT AT ALL into the positive thinking thing...).
I would stick to decent access areas NOT on dead end roads. There are plenty of problems in the woods, including drunks with BIG guns, and a pretty good crop of illegal growers from across the MEX border. They clear out areas hidden from view (EZ when blackberry bushes are 20' tall) and they set booby traps (trip wire shotguns) and such, Gotta be SMART about it (living in paradise...).
Some of my friends have had to flee due to crazy neighbors (wives / kids don't feel safe at home) BEST not to be tucked into the woods. I rarely have bullets zooming by, but it happens occasionally. (Less after I started trap shooting around my house and property). Popping off a few shots in the late of night seem to keep the neighbors from becoming too big of bully. It is healthy to establish some SPACE. Sheriff? Mine is usually well over an hour away (in the 'troublesome' part of the county). My area is very well mannered compared to many.
There are plenty of Wackos everywhere. Don't invite trouble by moving in next to them. (hence the GREAT idea to buy a BIG parcel and CHOOSE your own neighbors buy selling lots / houses to the right folks).
Ask around, get to know the locals, BE SMART.
Well, all I can say is, it's good to find out about these details in advance (hence researching and having productive conversations on this forum). I also have to say that the concept of what we
thought was a very attractive and serene island life on Puget Sound is suddenly becoming quite unappealing and seemingly risky.
But I also understand "location" is key. And yes, being
smart through the entire process is also key. We really do appreciate ALL you've shared with us! Thanks again StealthRabbit (and that's really sad about your iron antiques/yard art).
10-06-2013, 02:28 PM
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preshiesgirl,
Just stumbled across your thread...I'm curious if you ended up moving to WA and if you've built your home? If you have, how was the whole process? From the posts that StealthRabbit wrote, it seems like it would be quite a hassle building from the ground up. I'm hoping to move to WA in the next couple of years (also telecommuting) and would like to build a new home as well. Just wanted to get your perspective...
Thanks in advance!
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Hi, preshiesgirl, we are also looking to move there. We will rent for a year and then decide where to buy or build. How did your build go? Where did you end up? We are looking at the Sequim area for now. Maybe Bellingham but thought that was too far north. Was looking in the Port Orchard area until we saw a post about people riding atv's and having drunken bonfires. Hmm. loved reading about all the advice you got. I wrote alot down to reference later. Hope everything went well.
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People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)