Seattle Freeze in Tacoma? (Bellingham: income, live, store)

[Port Pitt Ash]

How friendly are the people of Tacoma in general.

Seattle Freeze?

Portland sort of friendly?

Or Cali super friendly/laid back?

[505HPC6Z06]

Not counting CA and I don't know about Oregon, but look at the income level to determine the Depth-of-Freeze. I lived 1/2 block from Green Lake for over 3 years and never thought of it as being "Seattle Freeze"ish. The stuck-up areas tend to be where the wealthy people are as they are less likely to start small talk with a stranger in public.

[RotseCherut]

Tacoma is a more ghetto version of Portland and somewhat a hybrid of the old Portland and old Seattle. It is friendlier, but a lot rougher and tougher than Seattle. As much of pansies as Seattlites can be, Tacoma people are pretty gritty and tough people. So, you have to take the goods with the bads. You will get people who are a bit friendlier and hospitable, but also people who are tougher, meaner and punch the crap out of you if you rub them the wrong way. In general, if you watch yourself and avoid getting into confrontations you will be ok. Beware of places like 6th Ave and Hilltop on weekends, it turns into a sausage fest and some dive bars, truly live up to the name of "dives".

If you hang out where there are a lot of hipsters expect a bit of a freeze which is common with all the new more new age trendy , cooler than thou, politically correct ultra liberal types. However, I felt even the hipsters in Tacoma were bit more down-to-earth and friendly, in a Portland manner than your average uppity and reserved Seattle hipster.

Surpringsly, Tacoma and Bellingham share some commonalities on the cultural perspective, but Tacoma is definitely grittier and meaner than Bellingham, but both are blue collarish traditional Washington towns. A bit more grimey, drunk and less friendly than Oregon towns, but still more upbeat, personable and friendly than Seattle, which lost its old Washington identity.

BTW.. I grew up in Portland and lived a year near Tacoma, so I experienced the differences in culture and people in Portland, Tacoma and Seattle.

[Port Pitt Ash]

Originally Posted by RotseCherut

Tacoma is a more ghetto version of Portland and somewhat a hybrid of the old Portland and old Seattle. It is friendlier, but a lot rougher and tougher than Seattle. As much of pansies as Seattlites can be, Tacoma people are pretty gritty and tough people.

Any comparisons you can make of the "tougher/rougher/grittier" folks to people in the Midwest/North East?

Also when you say old Portland/old Seattle what years are you generally talking about?

Early 90's gutter punk Portland?

[StealthRabbit]

'Freeze' can (has been / is being) studied, as a PNW, societal (regional) unique. (individuality / 'not-warm')

Could be from:
pioneer settlers / Gold rush / adventure seekers / those running from family / same-ole-same-ole.

Similar 'action' is currently happening with Social Media craze.

Seattle adds a:
wealth / education / recreation element to the 'Freeze'.

I like potlucks and neighbors helping neighbors. Still happens, even in the PNW!

[Port Pitt Ash]

Originally Posted by StealthRabbit

'Freeze' can (has been / is being) studied, as a PNW, societal (regional) unique. (individuality / 'not-warm')

Could be from:
pioneer settlers / Gold rush / adventure seekers / those running from family / same-ole-same-ole.

Similar 'action' is currently happening with Social Media craze.

Seattle adds a:
wealth / education / recreation element to the 'Freeze'.

I like potlucks and neighbors helping neighbors. Still happens, even in the PNW!

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[StealthRabbit]

Originally Posted by Port Pitt Ash

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You will have a tough time finding neighbors in the PNW that will 'Talk over the fence'.

Can go 3-5 yrs and never even meet your neighbors.

If you get to smelling real bad, they may find you (month old cadaver)

PNW is not SE USA.

I have NEVER had PNW folks offer to cook for me while I was injured or in Hospital.

In USA midwest and SE, you will have a parade of people bringing you free food when you are incapacitated.

I call that the 'Freeze' YMMV.

Portland folks can be friendly if you think like them. If you don't... you will be shunned.

CA people are not laid back... they are intensely into themselves. (generally)

[Port Pitt Ash]

Originally Posted by StealthRabbit

You will have a tough time finding neighbors in the PNW that will 'Talk over the fence'.

Can go 3-5 yrs and never even meet your neighbors.

To be fair this is more places nowadays.

Seattle is certainly more noticeable than most.

Originally Posted by StealthRabbit

PNW is not SE USA.

I have NEVER had PNW folks offer to cook for me while I was injured or in Hospital.

In USA midwest and SE, you will have a parade of people bringing you free food when you are incapacitated.

Why would you compare the SE to the PNW? Is there even a comparison to be made?

As far as the Midwest goes maybe 20 years ago, but I don't find many people that would these days. Maybe family members visiting with store bought stuff. Unless you're talking about your significant other then I think you can get them to cook for you when you're ill just about everywhere, yeah?

Originally Posted by StealthRabbit

CA people are not laid back... they are intensely into themselves. (generally)

CA is a big place. SoCal, not a chance. But more than most I've found Cali folks more laid back and open minded than Midwesterners, southerners, and people in the NE.

FWIW, I have lived in Portland and know the deal with its people.

[MarciaMarshaMarcia]

There is no place in the PNW that is as friendly as California. Please don't call it Cali.

[mev]

"There is no place in the PNW that is as friendly as California. Please don't call it Cali."
That's not very friendly