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Old 08-20-2015, 12:11 PM
 
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What is NOAA? I've searched the internet for info., haven't found anything. This was too many seagulls to write it off as a few of them that ate garbage...there were MANY, too many to count...everywhere we went. We found it strange...seriously, where I previously lived, I believe the beach would have been cordoned off, yet tons of people with kids & dogs & rental horses were there. We also saw a huge beached fish, it looked like a grouper. I don't know who has jurisdiction over these beaches...I don't think they are state parks...the beaches north of this area are Native land.
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. They have a big research center in Seattle. NOAA - National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

There's some bird flu circulating around the Middle East or Asia somewhere. I don't suppose it could be that. Still wouldn't explain the jellyfish and other non-avian deaths.
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Old 08-20-2015, 07:09 PM
 
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National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. They have a big research center in Seattle. NOAA - National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

There's some bird flu circulating around the Middle East or Asia somewhere. I don't suppose it could be that. Still wouldn't explain the jellyfish and other non-avian deaths.

Hmmm..I think maybe here's the answer: Toxic algae bloom might be largest ever | The Seattle Times

It was from June, but it would account for both the marine and avian deaths. Nasty stuff. Warming oceans are just not good.

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Old 08-20-2015, 10:26 PM
 
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Hmmm..I think maybe here's the answer: Toxic algae bloom might be largest ever | The Seattle Times

It was from June, but it would account for both the marine and avian deaths. Nasty stuff. Warming oceans are just not good.
I just read this article. I think you may have nailed it. You're right...not good.
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Old 08-20-2015, 11:02 PM
 
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I just read another article that the whales are being found dead in Alaska much more than normal . there was a picture of bear eating the dead whale on shore. and the whale did not look normal at all.
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Old 08-21-2015, 12:15 AM
 
Location: Desolation Row, WA
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The searchable "blob of heat off west coast" has been around for a while. I don't understand how that would kill lots of sea gulls, but then I'm not a marine biologist.

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Old 08-21-2015, 11:13 AM
 
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Hmmm..I think maybe here's the answer: Toxic algae bloom might be largest ever | The Seattle Times

It was from June, but it would account for both the marine and avian deaths. Nasty stuff. Warming oceans are just not good.
Right. This is what I mentioned at the beginning of the thread--a red tide. They occur almost annually, but some years they're bigger than others. This is one of those years.
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Old 08-22-2015, 08:10 AM
 
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The searchable "blob of heat off west coast" has been around for a while. I don't understand how that would kill lots of sea gulls, but then I'm not a marine biologist.
What do seabirds eat? There's your answer
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Old 08-22-2015, 02:25 PM
 
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What do seabirds eat? There's your answer
I did think more about that a bit later, and it does seem very likely that an unusually toxic red tide caused by "The Blob" of warm water is the explanation for the dead sea gulls. I have seen lots of dead crabs washed up on those beaches in previous years, but they weren't mentioned in the original post. The sea gulls probably ate crabs along with the jellyfish.
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Old 08-22-2015, 02:32 PM
 
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What do seabirds eat? There's your answer
That wouldn't explain the dead jellyfish. It's a red tide caused by the unusually warm waters in the Pacific. It's worse than usual this year because of the El Nino conditions that are forming (that "blob", and all....)
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Old 08-22-2015, 03:51 PM
 
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That wouldn't explain the dead jellyfish. It's a red tide caused by the unusually warm waters in the Pacific. It's worse than usual this year because of the El Nino conditions that are forming (that "blob", and all....)
After reading your post about ten times, all I can think is 'wtf are you saying?'

I just posted a link about the red tide earlier, and then another poster said that doesn't explain sea gull deaths. If sea gulls eat marine animals, and marine animals have been affected by the algae, then the seagulls are going to be affected.
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