I-1639 being challenged (felony, purchase, storage)

[thatguy950]

https://mynorthwest.com/1186859/nra-...a-over-i-1639/

Good

[rkcarguy]

I'm not surprised, the issues identified in the linked article are the exact reasons I didn't like the bill. I'm for some changes, but it just doesn't make a difference when the mentally ill, drug addicts, and criminals aren't dealt with.

[notnamed]

From the article:
"mandating that gun owners lock their firearms in a safe; and making it a felony if a gun owner’s firearm that is not properly locked away is stolen and used in the commission of a crime."

That's simply not true. Read the initiative itself.
https://www.sos.wa.gov/_assets/elect...ltext_1531.pdf

And yeah the 18-21 age range issue is problematic. However, it just extended existing law for pistols in that regard to semi-auto rifles. So if the pistol law was not successfully challenged I don't know what ground they would have with rifles.

[rkcarguy]

notnamed, I think the main issue lies with the defining of ALL semi-auto rifles as "assault rifles".

I also don't like the fact that at 18, one can enlist and be killed in the line of duty yet not be able to purchase a pistol, "assault rifle" or even have a beer.

[Swampoid13]

The people voted! This is what we want in Washington! The NRA should butt out.

[notnamed]

Originally Posted by rkcarguy

I also don't like the fact that at 18, one can enlist and be killed in the line of duty yet not be able to purchase a pistol, "assault rifle" or even have a beer.

Agreed, but that's just not really a new problem introduced by this.

[thatguy950]

Originally Posted by Swampoid13

The people voted! This is what we want in Washington! The NRA should butt out.

The people of Washington would vote to restrict First Amendment rights as well, so the state really has no business stomping on the Constitution punishing those who have done nothing wrong

[Seacove]

State's rights. One can always move to a more gun friendly state. Guns aren't illegal in Washington, we just voted for some controls.

[thatguy950]

Funny when liberals use stand on state’s rights or The Constitution when reinforces their agenda...

One could also always move to a more liberal country with no guns at all.

[Corvette Ministries]

Originally Posted by notnamed

From the article:
"mandating that gun owners lock their firearms in a safe; and making it a felony if a gun owner’s firearm that is not properly locked away is stolen and used in the commission of a crime."

That's simply not true. Read the initiative itself.
https://www.sos.wa.gov/_assets/elect...ltext_1531.pdf

...

Well, they don't specifically mention a SAFE, but ...

A person who stores or leaves a firearm in a location where the person knows, or reasonably should know, that a prohibited person may gain access to the firearm:
(a) Is guilty of community endangerment due to unsafe storage of a firearm in the first degree if a prohibited person obtains access and possession of the firearm and causes personal injury or death with the firearm; or
(b) Is guilty of community endangerment due to unsafe storage of a firearm in the second degree if a prohibited person obtains access and possession of the firearm and:
(i) Causes the firearm to discharge;
(ii) Carries, exhibits, or displays the firearm in a public
place in a manner that either manifests an intent to intimidate another or that warrants alarm for the safety of other persons; or
(iii) Uses the firearm in the commission of a crime.
(2)(a) Community endangerment due to unsafe storage of a firearm in the first degree is a class C felony punishable according to chapter 9A.20 RCW.