05-08-2019, 07:53 PM
Location: Shelton, WA
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We moved to Shelton last year from California.. to us, there was WAY more homeless camps there compared to here in WA.
05-09-2019, 12:07 AM
Location: State of Transition
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We moved to Shelton last year from California.. to us, there was WAY more homeless camps there compared to here in WA.
Wonderful post! I actually looked up Lake Limerick, after you first posted about it, I was so impressed with your post!
It sounds like you found your slice of heaven!
05-31-2019, 04:26 PM
Location: Shelton, WA
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Wonderful post! I actually looked up Lake Limerick, after you first posted about it, I was so impressed with your post!
It sounds like you found your slice of heaven!
Thanks Ruth. we are so happy here.. I hope others who are looking to move to Washington will at least check it out..
06-10-2019, 09:26 AM
Location: Florida
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Hi All, continuing my search of the West for a place to call home that's in budget and good to live in (for me of course... everyone has different ideas).
I just read your post and hope you look carefully at the areas. There is no getting away from the homeless problem anywhere around the areas, they all have plenty of trash and homeless. I live outside of Olympia and you’d think that the more rural you get, the more seedy the area. Not true, I can’t see a difference in rural or town, tents and trash are abundant in both.
The scenic beauty is here, but spoiled by local government with lax policies on homeless, drugs and trash. I like Lacey best, it’s cleaner, newer, nicer in many areas. It’s best to stay north of Olympia, Centralia and Chehalis are meth towns, very depressing to look at.
Squatters are abundant too. In this neighborhood, a neighbor was telling me that a house close by us, was full of squatters until it recently sold. I drove by the place and saw a large bus parked on the side. The house shows a lot of neglect, hope the buyer will spend some money on it.
Anyway, Olympia has a lot of run down places, the further north you go, the nicer the area tends to get. Can’t say about Shelton. Good luck.
06-10-2019, 12:18 PM
Location: PNW
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It’s best to stay north of Olympia, Centralia and Chehalis are meth towns, very depressing to look at.
Walk through downtown Centralia then walk through downtown Oly and tell me which one looks better. It's not even a comparison. Oly's downtown looks like a s***hole compared with Centralia's downtown.
Lived here 21 years and have watched Olympia take a nosedive. Wife works in Centralia and we've watched it clean up immensely.
06-10-2019, 01:12 PM
Location: Rochester, WA
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Lived here 21 years and have watched Olympia take a nosedive. Wife works in Centralia and we've watched it clean up immensely.
I think I would agree with this. Not that there aren't still sketchy areas in Centralia/Chehalis, but that it is improving. As prices have gone up in Olympia, Lewis county has grown... with a thriving little downtown area, nice unique restaurants and theaters, and nice shopping in the outlet areas by the freeway.
06-10-2019, 01:41 PM
Location: West Coast U.S.A.
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Walk through downtown Centralia then walk through downtown Oly and tell me which one looks better. It's not even a comparison. Oly's downtown looks like a s***hole compared with Centralia's downtown.
Agreed. And........ there are a LOT more homeless here than most people realize because we have woods everywhere, thus most of the camps are out of sight. People drive by them all the time and don't realize it because of the woods.
06-10-2019, 04:48 PM
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Hi All, continuing my search of the West for a place to call home that's in budget and good to live in (for me of course... everyone has different ideas).
I would suggest doing what I used to do when I was homeless and scouting a town... use Google Earth.
Use the "street cam" function and walk around and see what it's like.
(At the time I actually used to look in the classified ads to find out where the "good" side of town was, we didn't have Google Earth.)
I look at towns now with the app. now though, scouting and sizing up as though I were still homeless, and I will always be interested in the homeless situation.
From homeless when I got to Seattle, to retired (several years ago) in my mid-50s with my own business.
I have an apartment in the city and a piece of retirement property paid off and a steadily growing nest egg, I have just about everything I need already paid for, have no debt and save more than half my income.
Now this was long before the "opioid crisis," (in fact... I thought we got over that in the 1970s... it really caught me unaware until that Philip Seymore Hoffman guy OD'd and we started hearing about Fentanyl...)
But we did have a thriving "crack" and "meth" problem at that time, still do I imagine.
The town I live in right now, I've been here 12 years, I'd say it was middle-class, and I don't see any people camping on the sidewalk.
We have one little place that I see kids sleeping in overnight, (without tents) maybe two or three kids, but I really don't see these sidewalk "tent cities," and my area is So. King County, it sure ain't no Bellevue...
But things are getting better here, they are clearing out the old and going upscale... (I look at rents at some of these places, and you know, I wouldn't say they are crazy high...)
This thread is about "Olympia, good or bad to live," and I don't really know about that town and have never even been there, but I can offer first-hand experience or opinions on homelessness in general if anyone is particularly interested there.
I have observations and maybe even a few insights, but I don't really have any good, comprehensive answers here.
Hiring the homeless to clean up the mess might be something to look at, I like, "win, win, win," "Best for all concerned" solutions.
I don't mean to stretch out the OP's topic, but it always seems to boil-down to the "homeless" thing nowadays...
Thx
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06-10-2019, 06:43 PM
Location: Florida
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Walk through downtown Centralia then walk through downtown Oly and tell me which one looks better. It's not even a comparison. Oly's downtown looks like a s***hole compared with Centralia's downtown.
Centralia has the outlet stores which improve things a lot, and I also got the best deal ever on a bag in the Coach store. The outlet stores are nice and kept up, and being right off I 5 makes them easy to get to. That outlet was a smart move for your town, but if you turn left and go under the overpass, things go downhill pretty quickly. I agree with Centralia being nicer, I stopped going to the bank in Chehalis because driving around that place is just awful. Other branches are further away, but in better locations.
After reading and hearing all the positive things about Olympia, it turned out to be a disappointment. I bet you have seen major changes in 21 years, parts of Olympia are real toilets. At least, Lacey is growing and has some prosperity.
06-10-2019, 08:03 PM
Location: Rochester, WA
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Centralia has the outlet stores which improve things a lot, and I also got the best deal ever on a bag in the Coach store. The outlet stores are nice and kept up, and being right off I 5 makes them easy to get to. That outlet was a smart move for your town, but if you turn left and go under the overpass, things go downhill pretty quickly.
Just as I was reading your post, Taz, we were exiting the freeway in Centralia and turning left to go under the overpass. The coincidence of that is amusing! :-). We are headed tonight to my husband’s orchestra concert at Centralia College.
As for going downhill… I don’t see that way. We drove down that main drag a bit until it was time to turn and go to the college. Centralia is an older city… and a middle class one for sure… built by and for loggers in flannel. Many of the little houses were probably built in the 20s, Some before! Many still have the old carriage house in the back. It has some grittiness that comes with age. Some of these old places are better kept than others. But it’s growing and people want to live here. The whole area is. Lots of good people are finding a home here in centralia who can’t afford Olympia anymore.
Anyway almost time to go in for the concert. I just thought the coincidence was amusing And couldn’t help but chime in
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People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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