Would smoky summers make you think twice about staying? (Olympia: how much, homes)

[notnamed]

Originally Posted by flyingsaucermom

You just left? What state did you move? How long were you here?

6 years, on our way to Cincinnati, OH. Certainly another reason is how Portland has deteriorated so much so quickly that we stopped enjoying going out for date nights there which was also one of the reasons we moved here. More to do and a nicer environment in Cincy now with the investment that’s been going on in downtown there.

[Botev1912]

Originally Posted by notnamed

6 years, on our way to Cincinnati, OH. Certainly another reason is how Portland has deteriorated so much so quickly that we stopped enjoying going out for date nights there which was also one of the reasons we moved here. More to do and a nicer environment in Cincy now with the investment that’s been going on in downtown there.

Cincinnati has more violent crime than Portland though.

[notnamed]

Originally Posted by Botev1912

Cincinnati has more violent crime than Portland though.

Agreed, though we’ll be in a safe burb and know where the violent crime prone areas are to avoid whereas every excursion into Portland is just depressing now.

Our last visit before we left we went to get some Toadstool Cupcakes…homeless encampments right on the sidewalk there.

[Diana Holbrook]

I am as tired of smokey summers as anyone.... anyone who is not currently having a smokey summer.

I have lived here as long as I can remember. And as long as I can remember, people have complained about the rain, and immediately somewhere around July 4, we start complaining about the lack of rain. We can switch from complaining about cold to complaining about heat in a day! It's our enduring feature.

And as long as I can remember, we have had 9 months of rain and 3 months of drought. It's the one thing we have always been able to count on. It never rains in August. And it only scarcely rains in July. Usually one severe heat wave, and one severe cold snap each season. Some years, even more than others, but the weather has always been such. We've often had these lovely marine layer mornings like this morning, followed by it being too dang hot by afternoon. Having always had a farm and farm chores, we learned to do our chores early, before it got too hot.... because most of us wilt in anything more than 75 degrees.

Global warming may have changed that by a degree here or there, but the rest is mostly selective memory. And wildfires probably have much more to do with changes in forestry practices far away than changes in climate here. According to many, we're not likely to get drier with global warming, we may actually get wetter. It's wetter this year than it was last year at this time. I haven't measured it, but my pasture is still green now, and it wasn't last year on the fourth. I remember.

[notnamed]

In Vancouver, WA our yard was crunchy after that heat wave even though it had daily automatic sprinklers.

[Bluefox]

What I cherish about western Washington is the endless hiking and backpacking opportunities. There really is a short window of time to be able to go high up in the mountains without snowshoes and unfortunately that tends to be the time of the smoke. I’ve had backpack trips somewhat ruined two years in a row due to wildfire smoke.

I don’t think it’s a dealbreaker per se but it sometimes makes me want to look into places like maybe Colorado or Utah, but I feel like they’re often subject to the same conditions. I’ve also thought about perhaps New Hampshire or Vermont but I don’t like the tick situation there. We’ll see how bad it gets this year.

[Angry-Koala]

Originally Posted by Diana Holbrook

I have lived here as long as I can remember. And as long as I can remember, people have complained about the rain, and immediately somewhere around July 4, we start complaining about the lack of rain. We can switch from complaining about cold to complaining about heat in a day! It's our enduring feature.

And as long as I can remember, we have had 9 months of rain and 3 months of drought. It's the one thing we have always been able to count on. It never rains in August. And it only scarcely rains in July.

I remember it a bit differently. There was rain on and off throughout June and into the first one to two weeks of July. The dry season started the second or third week of July. It rained a bit in August - most often near the end of the month. People didn't start talking drought until we had gone five or so weeks without rain because the dry spell is normal.

The Olympia Regional Airport lists our average July rainfall as 0.53 inches and the average August rainfall as 0.96 inches.

[Diana Holbrook]

Originally Posted by Angry-Koala

I remember it a bit differently. There was rain on and off throughout June and into the first one to two weeks of July. The dry season started the second or third week of July. It rained a bit in August - most often near the end of the month. People didn't start talking drought until we had gone five or so weeks without rain because the dry spell is normal.

The Olympia Regional Airport lists our average July rainfall as 0.53 inches and the average August rainfall as 0.96 inches.

Well, everyone remembers it the way they want to see it, unless someone has an actual chart and wants to compare. I'm not in a place to look it up... but half an inch, or even an inch, of rain in a month is really very dry. That's one fast moving thundershower.

[Botev1912]

Originally Posted by Angry-Koala

I remember it a bit differently. There was rain on and off throughout June and into the first one to two weeks of July. The dry season started the second or third week of July. It rained a bit in August - most often near the end of the month. People didn't start talking drought until we had gone five or so weeks without rain because the dry spell is normal.

The Olympia Regional Airport lists our average July rainfall as 0.53 inches and the average August rainfall as 0.96 inches.

Phoenix gets more rain in July and August. 1 inch of rain in a whole month is practically nothing.

[thatguy950]

Originally Posted by Diana Holbrook

I am as tired of smokey summers as anyone.... anyone who is not currently having a smokey summer.

I have lived here as long as I can remember. And as long as I can remember, people have complained about the rain, and immediately somewhere around July 4, we start complaining about the lack of rain. We can switch from complaining about cold to complaining about heat in a day! It's our enduring feature.

And as long as I can remember, we have had 9 months of rain and 3 months of drought. It's the one thing we have always been able to count on. It never rains in August. And it only scarcely rains in July. Usually one severe heat wave, and one severe cold snap each season. Some years, even more than others, but the weather has always been such. We've often had these lovely marine layer mornings like this morning, followed by it being too dang hot by afternoon. Having always had a farm and farm chores, we learned to do our chores early, before it got too hot.... because most of us wilt in anything more than 75 degrees.

Global warming may have changed that by a degree here or there, but the rest is mostly selective memory. And wildfires probably have much more to do with changes in forestry practices far away than changes in climate here. According to many, we're not likely to get drier with global warming, we may actually get wetter. It's wetter this year than it was last year at this time. I haven't measured it, but my pasture is still green now, and it wasn't last year on the fourth. I remember.

That may be true regarding the pro(re)gressive mismanagement of the forests, but with that said, much of the smoke that drifts into WA originates elsewhere unfortunately, so WA is often a victim other’s poor behaviors