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Old 07-13-2010, 09:48 PM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Yea, you're right. I only checked Athens for Greece and Cordoba for Spain, both of which were cooler than Sydney.
ATHENS(HELLINIKON), GREECE Weather History and Climate Data

Athens has a higher annual mean than Sydney - 18.5C, and is a hot 27.9C in July (23-33C). Which is probably even a bit higher than people expect (on par with hotter parts of the South!).
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Old 07-13-2010, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Sydney a cool to cold climate?

You're almost as bad as SAB .

Been to Sydney in winter several times now and always got glorious sunny days with highs around 19-20C.
Purely based on my own perceptions of living here, the winters are much nicer than you expect (probably because winters to me prior to Sydney were cold, dark and damp affairs).

But it has been pretty dire here the last two weeks or so with minimal sun. Today is much nicer though (finally...)

I struggle to enjoy summer much though as many weekend days are spoiled by overcast and rainy weather. The warm evenings are a bonus though.

Autumn and spring are ok - the former better for swimming (as warmer SST) and the later tends to have higher % sun.

However a lot of people who migrate to Sydney expect 300+ days of sun a year and hot temperatures. Whether this is due to some sort of prior conditioning I do not know (Australia sells itself to the outside world as beaches, sun and bbqs and Sydney being the main gateway...)
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Old 07-13-2010, 10:42 PM
 
Location: New York
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ATHENS(HELLINIKON), GREECE Weather History and Climate Data

Athens has a higher annual mean than Sydney - 18.5C, and is a hot 27.9C in July (23-33C). Which is probably even a bit higher than people expect (on par with hotter parts of the South!).
Wow that's almost exactly like Baltimore, never knew Athens was that warm (hot by European standards).
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Old 07-15-2010, 07:05 PM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Wow that's almost exactly like Baltimore, never knew Athens was that warm (hot by European standards).
I'm surprised Baltimore is as warm as it is, since surrounding places seem markedly cooler at night. Athens is right at the southern part of Europe, like 38'N, in the part of the Mediterranean least influence by the cool waters of the Atlantic.
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Old 07-15-2010, 08:10 PM
 
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New Mexico in general is thought of as being hotter than it really is. San Francisco is thought of as being warm when really it's one of the coolest climates in America during the summer.
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Old 07-15-2010, 09:07 PM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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New Mexico in general is thought of as being hotter than it really is. San Francisco is thought of as being warm when really it's one of the coolest climates in America during the summer.
NM is mostly quite elevated. SF is well known for it's cool summers inside the US, maybe foreigners might think it's warm like the rest of Cal.
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Old 07-15-2010, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Singapore
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Shanghai, China is much colder in the winter than most would expect, especially given its amazingly low latitude (31N).

January temperatures average 45F/34F and February averages 47F/36F.

The all time record low I found is 16F set in January.

In turn, SE Russia, Korea and NE China are all much colder in winter than people think.

Khabarovsk at 48N rarely rises above 32F in D,J,F...and is consistently in the temperature range of -20F to 15F for most of winter. While not as extreme as Fairbanks and the Alaskan interior, average temperatures are pretty similar in winter.
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Old 07-16-2010, 03:24 AM
 
Location: Eastern Sydney, Australia
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There is often a very great temperature gradient for Californian cities from the coast to inland suburbs.
San Francisco appears to be the case. Stats say the average summer max's are only 18C - thats wintry to me - but most people are still in summer clothing.
Sydney has a mediocre climate in my book, I have spent summers there where there was hardly any beach weather - either too cool, overcast or wet, making the tourist brochures of Bondi look laughable.
Canberra, often criticised as being too cold - and 100 frosts a year is not to be sneezed at - still has a balmy continental summer climate, and hence hotter than most think.
It depends yearly of course. Mid-summer onwards is normally cloudy/wet here but over the past decade, it's proved to be the opposite. I've noticed that January is usually the sunniest/driest month whereas Febraury the wettest/cloudiest, December to an much lesser extent though. One summer can be wet, cloudy and rainy, another hot and dry. One thing that's definitely guaranteed is the humidity - it comes around every year be it wet/cloudy or sunny/dry - notable exceptions like 1948 and 1965 to name but two. For the former, much wetter than usual and latter, drier but with cloudier skies.
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Old 07-16-2010, 03:33 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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San Jose, California. Not unlike Melbourne in terms of temps year round....but they have 300 sunny dyas per year with only 366mm rainfall......surprising considering the very small distance to foggy and cold San Francisco.
Yeah, a lot of people think the whole Bay Area has the same climate... either they expect it all to be SF weather, or they think it's warm & sunny like Los Angeles. Truth is that we have a ton of micro-climates here, and you can find different weather in nearly every town. I live right on the coast (in San Francisco), where it's foggy and cool ALL year - just how I like it!
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Old 07-16-2010, 03:43 AM
 
Location: Eastern Sydney, Australia
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Yes - but the RO site was probably influenced by buildings - so you have to allow for that. What's the record span for Mt Lawley?

And regarding the 8.8 hours/year at the Aero, if that keeps up for another decade or so it will have to be accepted.
Perth RO: March 1898 - March 1992 (94 years of complete records) 2888 hours pa. RWood's right - obstructions from "new" high rise buildings, especially in later years, certainly effected sun readings from the east/west.

Perth Aero: starting January 1993, the running average ending June 2010 is 3211 hours.
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