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Old 10-20-2010, 12:25 PM
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That’s a good point.

However, just to be fair, we have several family members who live in tropical south Florida, who do not use the AC at all much of the year. Even as much as I like a sunny 80 – 90 F day, I like it around 65 – 68 F and semi dry (lower humidity) for sleeping. Yet, family/friends who live in south Florida all year think nothing of sleeping in a breezy 78 F room with a dew point of 68 F. In fact if there is a breeze, they will sleep without AC even in the summer at times. We laugh, they will turn off the AC when it’s under 80 F outside then remark " that there is cool breeze" lol. They say folks in Palm Springs and Yuma will only do outside work in summer in the "cool of the day"; this means 8 - 10:00 am or 4:00 to 6:00 PM. Normally in those locations in summer temps are still near 80 F at those hours of the day. However, 80 might see cool when the daily high is 110 F.

Again, acclimation might be playing a hand.
I think nothing of sleeping in a breezy 78F room with a dew point of 68 F, either and I live in New England. Slept like that half of the summer (though not always that high of a dew point). Why would you want the A/C when it's under 80F outside?

I suppose I acclimitazed to summer as well. But I don't think of 70 something degree weather as requiring any acclimization. Well for sleeping it took a little bit of time to get used (maybe a week) and then it felt normal.
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Old 10-20-2010, 12:34 PM
 
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I think nothing of sleeping in a breezy 78F room with a dew point of 68 F, either and I live in New England. Slept like that half of the summer (though not always that high of a dew point). Why would you want the A/C when it's under 80F outside?

I suppose I acclimitazed to summer as well. But I don't think of 70 something degree weather as requiring any acclimization. Well for sleeping it took a little bit of time to get used (maybe a week) and then it felt normal.
If it was breezy, I might be able to sleep comfortably when it's in the 70s and breezy during the night. Howevermost summer nights that warm usually aren't very breezy. Even if it drops down into the upper 60s, I still have to have the A/C on for at least part of the night. Whenever I turn off the A/C before bed, I'll usually wake up the next morning hot and uncomfortable.

Even with the use of A/C, I'd still say most people (including mysefl) get somewhat acclimated to warm temperatures because nights that drop below 60 F or fail to rise above maybe 75 F feel coolish.

Generally sleeping weather during the summer sucks, IMO.
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Old 10-20-2010, 01:46 PM
 
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Ok. No I did not think you were talking about apex of summer conditions, you said clearly it was in early autumn. And yes, I understood you were mentioning that time to give an example of your ideal. However, you mentioning the clarity of the sky several times as if it was very special; where as I would think of "blue dome" conditions as typical good weather day. So I thought it meant that you lived in a somewhat cloudy place.
No, just that blue-dome is part of my ideal. The clarity is accentuated by the lack of air pollution. Many NZers who take trips mention it when they return - not something they no longer take for granted. The amount of haze I encountered in a trip to Europe & the UK a few years back was disturbing - one had to be 2000m up in the Swiss Alps to get above it. The inland area I was talking about is somewhat sunnier than the average NZ location, with about 54% of possible (but the coastal city where I travelled from at the time only gets about 40-42%).

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Old 10-21-2010, 03:07 PM
 
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You don't agree that:
"Originally Posted by Weatherfan2
Everyone has a different range of "comfortable" temperatures, "

- which is what you quoted of me. But it's quite obvious, however, that people do have different comfortable temperature ranges.
I must have only put part of the idea in.
It sounded like you think it's great that we don't all like the same weather; makes life more interesting.

I thought about it and realized I sometims hate that there are so many differences,
mostly because my preferences make me a minority... and it's sometimes lonely having them.

I often hate feeling cool, yet hate needing to wear layers,
so if I join people in a 68 F (20 C) environment, perhaps "man-made"... (perhaps chilled to that for "their" enjoyment )
I end up having to put on a happy face if I want to socialise.

Basically, easily 3/4 of the world's preferences for temperatures are alien to me.
Life was easier as a kid, when I didn't know that I wasn't average.
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Old 10-21-2010, 03:16 PM
 
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I often hate feeling cool, yet hate needing to wear layers,
so if I join people in a 68 F (20 C) environment, perhaps "man-made"... (perhaps chilled to that for "their" enjoyment )
I end up having to put on a happy face if I want to socialise.

Basically, easily 3/4 of the world's preferences for temperatures are alien to me.
Life was easier as a kid, when I didn't know that I wasn't average.
I don't think 20C is the preferred temperature everywhere, and probably maybe not 3/4 of the world either. Especially considering the geographical distribution of population on Earth.
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Old 10-21-2010, 03:22 PM
 
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As I sit in my room now, I find the temperature perfectly OK.

It depends not only on one's comfort range and tolerances, but also state of metabolism (have you just woke up? (slow) or had a meal? (fast)) and what you are wearing.

Wearing my customary two pairs of underwear and a fleece, and having just consumed a meal of 3 large Brat-Wurst, I feel quite comfortable.

Let me just go and check the indoor temperature in here. It is 19.7°C. However, if I had not eaten, or was wearing less, I might find it too cool. So temperature is only one of a number of factors which affects my homeostatic comfortability level.
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Old 10-21-2010, 07:32 PM
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If it was breezy, I might be able to sleep comfortably when it's in the 70s and breezy during the night. Howevermost summer nights that warm usually aren't very breezy. Even if it drops down into the upper 60s, I still have to have the A/C on for at least part of the night. Whenever I turn off the A/C before bed, I'll usually wake up the next morning hot and uncomfortable.

Even with the use of A/C, I'd still say most people (including mysefl) get somewhat acclimated to warm temperatures because nights that drop below 60 F or fail to rise above maybe 75 F feel coolish.

Generally sleeping weather during the summer sucks, IMO.
Fans create breeze if it isn't breezy outside. I've woken up from being too COLD on a night that went down to 70. No sheets with a fan blowing on me at 70 degrees is too cold (well below skin temperature). I agree this summer often didn't have the best sleeping conditions. Most nights I was too hot but I managed to fall asleep, but half the time I'd wake up too cold in the middle of the night.
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Old 10-21-2010, 07:37 PM
 
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Fans create breeze if it isn't breezy outside. I've woken up from being too COLD on a night that went down to 70. No sheets with a fan blowing on me at 70 degrees is too cold (well below skin temperature). I agree this summer often didn't have the best sleeping conditions. Most nights I was too hot but I managed to fall asleep, but half the time I'd wake up too cold in the middle of the night.
I forgot to mention that I had my ceiling fan on the nights I decided to leave the A/C off. Even with the ceiling fan I woke up hot and uncomfortable.

Now that it's cold at night again, I sleep much better.
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Old 10-21-2010, 07:38 PM
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I don't think 20C is the preferred temperature everywhere, and probably maybe not 3/4 of the world either. Especially considering the geographical distribution of population on Earth.
Just because 3/4 of the world's population lives in hot places doesn't mean that they won't prefer colder temperatures. But I doubt it. I've seen people in tropical temperatures wear layers when it was down to the "cold" temperature of 20°C.

I read somewhere that 25°C (77°F) is the ideal human temperature (or maybe it was 75°F) That is, if one was wearing no clothes. 20°C is a setting for an office of people wearing suits (or a natural suit made of blubber).
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Old 10-21-2010, 09:09 PM
 
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Just because 3/4 of the world's population lives in hot places doesn't mean that they won't prefer colder temperatures. But I doubt it. I've seen people in tropical temperatures wear layers when it was down to the "cold" temperature of 20°C.

I read somewhere that 25°C (77°F) is the ideal human temperature (or maybe it was 75°F) That is, if one was wearing no clothes. 20°C is a setting for an office of people wearing suits (or a natural suit made of blubber).
Blubber keeps whales warm... I wonder if clothing made from it would keep people warm too
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