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What about year-round PST? Latest sunset would be 6:42pm while earliest sunrise would be 4:18am
That wouldn't fly.
Nevada actually tried that back in the 90's, to go to year round Pacific Standard Time, but it was not allowed into law, with the reasoning that they would be two hours earlier than Utah (Mountain Daylight Time) and one hour earlier than California (Pacific Daylight Time), despite being east of California
I prefer standard time year round and early morning light, because I feel that my body functions best on natural time when the sun reaches its zenith, or daily maximum as close to 12:00pm as possible. Hence, the meaning of the abbreviations AM (ante-meridiam) and PM (poste-meridiam).
Google about children safety issue in Indiana. Late morning winter darkness means kids go to school in darkness
The rest of the state should follow Porter, LaPorte, Jasper, and Lake counties in following Central Time. It would make schoolchildren safer and put Indiana in sync with Chicago and the rest of the Midwest.
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The rest of the state should follow Porter, LaPorte, Jasper, and Lake counties in following Central Time. It would make schoolchildren safer and put Indiana in sync with Chicago and the rest of the Midwest.
The geographic (82.5° W longitude) rather than political boundary for Eastern/Central Time runs just east of Columbus, Ohio, and just east of the entire state of Michigan, as well as through the eastern 90% of Kentucky and Tennessee, and through the eastern third of Georgia as well as the middle of the Florida Peninsula. So if geographic boundaries were observed, Tampa, Ft Myers, Atlanta, Knoxville, Chattanooga, Louisville, Lexington, Cincinnati, Columbus, Dayton, Toledo, and the entire states of Indiana and Michigan would all be in Central Time.
The geographic (82.5° W longitude) rather than political boundary for Eastern/Central Time runs just east of Columbus, Ohio, and just east of the entire state of Michigan, as well as through the eastern 90% of Kentucky and Tennessee, and through the eastern third of Georgia as well as the middle of the Florida Peninsula. So if geographic boundaries were observed, Tampa, Ft Myers, Atlanta, Knoxville, Chattanooga, Louisville, Lexington, Cincinnati, Columbus, Dayton, Toledo, and the entire states of Indiana and Michigan would all be in Central Time.
Wow, I thought all of Tennessee was already on Central Time. I researched the subject and discovered the eastern third of the state follows EST. Interesting observation on the natural boundary of Eastern/Central Time. There are points in northwest Ontario that observe Eastern Time in spite of being at or slightly west of 90 degrees west. This makes for summer sunsets around 10:15pm and dusk lasting until 11pm local time. That would drive me mad trying to get to sleep when the sun's still quite high in the sky at 9pm.
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Wow, I thought all of Tennessee was already on Central Time. I researched the subject and discovered the eastern third of the state follows EST. Interesting observation on the natural boundary of Eastern/Central Time. There are points in northwest Ontario that observe Eastern Time in spite of being at or slightly west of 90 degrees west. This makes for summer sunsets around 10:15pm and dusk lasting until 11pm local time. That would drive me mad trying to get to sleep when the sun's still quite high in the sky at 9pm.
Yep, in Ontario, Canada, Sudbury and London should be the western limits of Eastern Time, and Windsor, Sault Ste Marie and Thunder Bay should be in Central Time
Please forgive me if this has already been discussed, but I couldn't find a similar topic despite searching.
I'm curious, how are you guys affected by daylight hours variation, DST and sunrise and sunset times?
Personally, I'm strongly affected by daylight changes especially when it comes to sunset. For some reasons (maybe because I often wake up late), the later the sunset time is, the happier I am.
I find any sunset time before 5PM to be disgusting, 5 to 6 really bad, 6 to 7 correct, 7 to 8 really nice and after 8PM truly excellent. I spent most of my life in southern France where summer days are always sunny and bright until around 9.30PM, and I always missed those evenings in other places I lived such as Hong Kong where even midsummer days get dark at 7.
Obviously, I am strongly in favor of DST and loathe the winter time change.
For all those reasons, I couldn't see myself living in a city with perpetually dark evenings (Tokyo is especially bad, 4.30PM sunset in December and 7PM in June). I'm moving to Singapore in January for several months so I'm curious how I will experience the constant 7.15PM sunsets. I guess this "year-round" DST, along with the strong equatorial light, lush vegetation and tropical warmth will seem especially excellent after this dreadful winter in northern France
So, what do you guys think of all this - daylight changes, DST, sunrise/sunet times? Am I the only one obsessed with it?
Also, do you know any places with extreme time zone eccentricities? The most extreme I could find are western China (with solar noon year-round at 15PM) and extreme northeast India (solar noon at 10.30AM, this is gross)
Most cities in the USA have sunset before 6pm in the wintertime.
Unfortunately our latitude is not high enough to counter the length of daylight saving (six months) so our earliest and latest sunrises actually take place when daylight saving ends or begins, but only some years, because it ends/begins on the first Sunday in April and October. If I had it my way, SA and NT would be at UTC+9 rather than UTC+9.5, daylight saving would only go for four months, from early Nov to early Mar, and everywhere would observe, even northern Australia.
Earliest sunrise: Oct 6, 5:26 but without DST 4:37 early December
Earliest sunset: 16:52 around mid-June
Latest sunrise: April 6, 7:10 but without DST it would be 7:01, end of June beginning of July
Latest sunset: 20:10, or 19:10 without DST early January
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