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I usually associate winter with the time of a first snowfall of reasonable size (not just light flurries) that actually sticks around on the ground for some days. My intuition feels like its gone to "winter" in late November or early December.
I associate autumn with the tree leaves but they're all pretty much bare by late October, so between that and the first wintery snowfall, I might as well refer to it as "late fall" or "early winter".
Definitely winter here, I mean we haven't got a lot of snow yet, but we had about an inch this morning which is still there, after several nights of hard frost, the current temperature is 22°F. The average low for this time of year is about 37°F.
Winter for me in ATL starts right about now. Generally whenever high temps are less than 65 for most days and after looking at our 5 day forecast, it seems like its about to start. Our cold season(as I call it) generally is chilly to mild to rain to chilly/cold again and it lasts from Nov to March. This pattern starts generally in early Nov but this NOV was milder than previous ones as it was consistent highs in the 60s-70s for most of NOV.....until now......I can't wait til March!
I think this is a very subjective area, but from my two year's so far in Sydney, it starts to feel "cool" around mid May. Up until then, we still get highs up around the 20C mark. From this point on, the majority of highs are below 20C (as opposed to above 20C).
Mid to late May until mid July it is at its worst here with cool, cloudy and wet weather. But it is not too cold at least compared to most of North America and Europe.
Late July and August we get a (sort of) reprieve as this is when Sydney is at its sunniest, in the % available sun sense. This mitigates the coolness of winter. This year our July was wet and cloudy though so the winter felt longer that the previous one.
August, on the other hand, was very sunny with an 8 hour/day average.
I live in the same region as FVWinters... so my weather patterns are similar. It starts becoming winter I'd say in October when we start getting low pressure system after low pressure system hitting the coast with fewer and fewer hours of sunshine. It's definitely not dependent on frost or snowfall that's for sure as both of these things are unpredictable during the winter/rainy season here. Some years we get a frost before Halloween during a cold snap or other years we won't get any until after Christmas. It just depends on the year.
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