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Paris 21 60.00%
Christchurch 14 40.00%
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Old 04-15-2011, 10:31 PM
 
Location: motueka nz
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I would choose Chch. Paris definitely has nicer a nicer summer, but overall is not as nice. Chch would be a lot nicer if they could keep those pesky easterly winds at bay.
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Old 04-16-2011, 02:20 AM
 
Location: Bangkok, Thailand
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I may be biased, be I'll have to go with ChCh here. Fairly similar climates overall (although Paris has greater temperature seasonality and is much more prone to heat waves / cold snaps) but ChCh's additional 500 or so sunshine hours make it the clear winner in my view (not to mention that sunlight would tend to have a greater warming effect in ChCh, at least in summer).

Bear in mind that the averages don't tell you the full story. I have to wonder if Paris has the same eternally unsettled weather that we have. Do they often have a week of consecutive sunless days such as we seem to be in the middle of now? Do they have frequent overcast days with 15 C highs in the middle of summer like we do? Do they experience a fair few blue dome winter days with highs in the upper teens as we do? I'd be interested to know what kind of day-to-day variation they get in Paris, but based on the averages I have to say I prefer my home town.

Further data here: Christchurch Climate Guide, New Zealand | World Climate Guide and Paris Climate Guide, France | World Climate Guide

ChCh has much sunnier winters and fewer raindays but seems to have a lot more winter frosts (due to greater radiational cooling due to clearer skies?), although I'm not sure how accurate this data is on that point.
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Old 04-16-2011, 06:35 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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I may be biased, be I'll have to go with ChCh here. Fairly similar climates overall (although Paris has greater temperature seasonality and is much more prone to heat waves / cold snaps) but ChCh's additional 500 or so sunshine hours make it the clear winner in my view (not to mention that sunlight would tend to have a greater warming effect in ChCh, at least in summer).

Bear in mind that the averages don't tell you the full story. I have to wonder if Paris has the same eternally unsettled weather that we have. Do they often have a week of consecutive sunless days such as we seem to be in the middle of now? Do they have frequent overcast days with 15 C highs in the middle of summer like we do? Do they experience a fair few blue dome winter days with highs in the upper teens as we do? I'd be interested to know what kind of day-to-day variation they get in Paris, but based on the averages I have to say I prefer my home town.

Further data here: Christchurch Climate Guide, New Zealand | World Climate Guide and Paris Climate Guide, France | World Climate Guide

ChCh has much sunnier winters and fewer raindays but seems to have a lot more winter frosts (due to greater radiational cooling due to clearer skies?), although I'm not sure how accurate this data is on that point.
It would be interesting to see how NZ compares to a typical Western European climate. The greater number of frosts in Christchurch can be explained by their lower minimum (although I thought Paris got colder than 2.5C, more like 0.6C, but anyway).
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Old 04-16-2011, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Buxton, England
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Paris.
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Old 04-16-2011, 09:41 AM
 
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I'd rather be shoveling a foot of snow in paris than sun tanning in nz
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Old 04-16-2011, 09:59 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Both are pleasant climates, but I'd go with Paris since it's cloudier and has cooler winters. I'd prefer Christchurch's cooler summers, but summer highs around 77 F are still nice.
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Old 04-16-2011, 12:03 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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I may be biased, be I'll have to go with ChCh here. Fairly similar climates overall (although Paris has greater temperature seasonality and is much more prone to heat waves / cold snaps) but ChCh's additional 500 or so sunshine hours make it the clear winner in my view (not to mention that sunlight would tend to have a greater warming effect in ChCh, at least in summer).

Bear in mind that the averages don't tell you the full story. I have to wonder if Paris has the same eternally unsettled weather that we have. Do they often have a week of consecutive sunless days such as we seem to be in the middle of now? Do they have frequent overcast days with 15 C highs in the middle of summer like we do? Do they experience a fair few blue dome winter days with highs in the upper teens as we do? I'd be interested to know what kind of day-to-day variation they get in Paris, but based on the averages I have to say I prefer my home town.

Further data here: Christchurch Climate Guide, New Zealand | World Climate Guide and Paris Climate Guide, France | World Climate Guide

ChCh has much sunnier winters and fewer raindays but seems to have a lot more winter frosts (due to greater radiational cooling due to clearer skies?), although I'm not sure how accurate this data is on that point.
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Do they often have a week of consecutive sunless days such as we seem to be in the middle of now?
Oh yes. Take a look at November 2009, 22 hours of sun in the month and weeks without any sun. And this month wasn't exceptional, just a little extreme, but Paris can be impressively cloudy in winter.

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Do they have frequent overcast days with 15 C highs in the middle of summer like we do?
Yup. I have experienced 11°C at noon in June and similarly crappy days in July.

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Do they experience a fair few blue dome winter days with highs in the upper teens as we do?
Rare, but it happens. From the year I spent there I remember a 15°C day with blue sky in Jan.


What I've noticed is the frequent warm spells in spring in Paris. It is common to have 25°C+ temps from April onwards, much more so than in Nice.
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Old 04-17-2011, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Paris
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It would be interesting to see how NZ compares to a typical Western European climate. The greater number of frosts in Christchurch can be explained by their lower minimum (although I thought Paris got colder than 2.5C, more like 0.6C, but anyway).
This 2.5C is Paris-Montsouris's normal. This weather station is about 4 km from the city centre. It's consequently greatly affected by Paris's massive urban heat island (the urban area hosts abit more than 10 million people). It's quite representative of the central city's climate, but not so practical for comparisons with other cities, which mostly have their temperatures measured at a nearby airport (which is Christcurch's case I assume ?). The average low in the outer suburbs is closer to zero and they average almost double as frost days as Montsouris.


For the sunshine thing, Montsouris's total is low compared to the nearby stations, which average about 100 hours more. Orly airport, located only a dozen kilometers from Montsouris, averages about 1800 hrs. Dunno which one is accurate, it's not like there are microclimates around here...
Anyway, be it 1630 or 1800 hours, Paris is very cloudy, especially in winter (this winter, in four months from November to February the total was about 175h).




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Yup. I have experienced 11°C at noon in June and similarly crappy days in July.
Such freaks of nature do happen from time to time but I wouldn't call overcast 15C frequent in summer.



I see the record highs are about the same. Wikipedia article doesn't state the record low, how is it compared to Paris's -24C ?
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Old 04-17-2011, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Wellington and North of South
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Mean annual temperature at Ch'ch Aero is 11.6C, Gardens 12.2C. The Wikipedia entry is using the latter. Record low reading is -7.1C.
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Old 04-17-2011, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Paris
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Ok, thanks. The number of frost days is impressive considering its rather mild record low !
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