U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Weather
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 06-27-2011, 03:16 AM
 
933 posts, read 1,895,886 times
Reputation: 646

Advertisements

Hello all,
This question has boggled my mind for a very long time now and I don't know if any climatology experts can explain this unacceptable phenomenon. Canadian and Russian cities at lower latitudes than Fairbanks, such as Yellowknife, Iqaluit, Omyakon, Verkhoyansk, Yakutsk, et cetera, are so much colder in the winter. Does anyone know what causes the mild winter in interior Alaska?? Is there a powerful oceanic current in the Western Pacific that is similar to the North Atlantic current, which is responsible for moderating the climate of Europe.

Here are the climate data of some sample cities to support the comparison:
Oymyakon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Verkhoyansk - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Yellowknife - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Iqaluit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, -Iqaluit is an interesting case. Its close proximity to the ocean does not give rise to a maritime climate like that of Anchorage and Nuuk.
Yakutsk - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Kyzyl - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, only at 51 North, yet much colder than Fairbanks

Fairbanks: Climate Information for Fairbanks*-*Alaska*-*Alaska*-*United States*-*Climate Zone,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairbanks#Climate, as you can see, its winter is rather warm for the latitude

Fairbanks and most of Alaska seem like a tropical paradise in the winter compared to these Canadian and Russian climates above in. The difference between the high temperature of Omyakon and Fairbanks in January is almost 40F/ 40C, that is tantamount to the difference between the hottest place on earth, Dallol, and the coldest.

The more data I look at, the more I'm left confused and jealous... Please chime in

Last edited by Kaul; 06-27-2011 at 03:29 AM..
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 06-27-2011, 03:33 AM
 
Location: Yorkshire, England
5,599 posts, read 9,348,462 times
Reputation: 3095
Well I believe Omyakon is at 700 metres and in a natural frost hollow sheltered from wind, what's Fairbanks like in that respect?
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-27-2011, 03:42 AM
 
933 posts, read 1,895,886 times
Reputation: 646
^^ Fairbanks is located in at the trough of the Tanana valley, which traps cold air during the winter months, causing the temperatures to be drastically lower than elsewhere in Interior Alaska Death of a Temperature Inversion, Alaska Science Forum
Inversion (meteorology) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-27-2011, 09:01 AM
 
Location: New York City
2,789 posts, read 5,872,506 times
Reputation: 1847
Western parts of a continent are always warmer than eastern parts in winter. Fairbanks is not warm compared to Arkhangelsk, Murmansk, or Rovaniemi, Finalnd.

Arkhangelsk - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Murmansk - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Rovaniemi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Umeå - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There is no need for a warm ocean current. Even a cold current will still be liquid water which is much warmer air temperature in winter at those latitudes.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-27-2011, 10:31 AM
 
333 posts, read 803,242 times
Reputation: 267
Kyzyl isn't "much colder"

January in Kyzyl: -25/-35 C
January in Fairbanks: -18/-28 C

MrMarbles gives some good information above.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-27-2011, 10:58 AM
 
933 posts, read 1,895,886 times
Reputation: 646
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMarbles View Post
Western parts of a continent are always warmer than eastern parts in winter. Fairbanks is not warm compared to Arkhangelsk, Murmansk, or Rovaniemi, Finalnd.

Arkhangelsk - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Murmansk - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Rovaniemi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Umeå - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There is no need for a warm ocean current. Even a cold current will still be liquid water which is much warmer air temperature in winter at those latitudes.
because those locations are in the Western part of the Eurasian continent, which is still being moderated by the North Atlantic current.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-27-2011, 11:04 AM
 
Location: New York City
2,789 posts, read 5,872,506 times
Reputation: 1847
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaul View Post
because those locations are in the Western part of the Eurasian continent, which is still being moderated by the North Atlantic current.
Right. And Fairbanks and all of southern and eastern Alaska is moderated by the waters of north Pacific Ocean.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-27-2011, 11:06 AM
 
933 posts, read 1,895,886 times
Reputation: 646
Quote:
Originally Posted by barney_rubble View Post
Kyzyl isn't "much colder"

January in Kyzyl: -25/-35 C
January in Fairbanks: -18/-28 C

MrMarbles gives some good information above.
At 51 degrees N latitude that is ridiculously cold. Winnipeg at 49 N, as one of the coldest city in Canada, is nowhere near as cold as Kyzyl. Winnpeg is also as far deep inside the continent as Kyzyl is.

Winnipeg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-27-2011, 11:14 AM
 
933 posts, read 1,895,886 times
Reputation: 646
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMarbles View Post
Right. And Fairbanks and all of southern and eastern Alaska is moderated by the waters of north Pacific Ocean.
LOL you declared earlier that there is no need for a warm ocean current.
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-27-2011, 11:25 AM
 
Location: still in exile......
29,910 posts, read 9,258,072 times
Reputation: 5904
Kyzyl is bitterly cold for it's latitude in the winter.


You also forgot another town that's on a similar latitude to Fairbanks.

Baker Lake, Nunavut - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Rate this post positively Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Weather

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2021, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top