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Old 03-15-2016, 09:16 AM
 
Location: João Pessoa,Brazil(The easternmost point of Americas)
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Someone shouldo the Winter comparasion.
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Old 03-15-2016, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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As much as I find the US southwest overrated, it is still miles better than southeastern china.

High humidity + no winter whatsoever + sunshine rates that would make Scotland feel like California by comparison + summer lows in the 70s = a certain idea of hell (for me)

At least the US climates seem more variety and they are very sunny overall.

You mean Southwest or Southeast?
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Old 03-15-2016, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Bologna, Italy
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southeast !

but from here, it is on the west
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Old 03-15-2016, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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southeast !

but from here, it is on the west

Curious, what would be your reason for calling it "overrated"? Does it have anything to do with how cold it can get in winter?
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Old 03-15-2016, 12:37 PM
 
Location: United Nations
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They both are very similar, though SE China has colder winters on average, but warmer extreme lows.
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Old 03-15-2016, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Bologna, Italy
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Curious, what would be your reason for calling it "overrated"? Does it have anything to do with how cold it can get in winter?
- They are too wet overall and I don't need to get thunderstorms every day from april to november.
- Winters are too unstable. Snowstorm one week and 18c dewpoints the next. Why can't it be comfortably cool like mediterranean climates winters (which still get interesting weather events like intense rain or even snow for some of them while being refreshing overall)
- It is very hard to live there without A/C


Although I have to say that the US southwest is a very broad area, so I tend to favour the drier parts. I see no advantages whatsoever in these climates over the northeastern part of the US, which still gets pretty hot summers while also having cooler shoulder seasons and winters that last more than two weeks.
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Old 03-15-2016, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Central New Jersey & British Columbia
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I find the US Midwest to be oppressively hot and humid in the summer, so I can't imagine what the Southeast is like. No thanks.

No experience with Southeast China, but I would guess it's similar to the SE United States. Less sun, but maybe slightly higher dew points cancels that out.
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Old 03-15-2016, 10:01 PM
 
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Southeastern U.S for more thunderstorms and slightly cooler nights.
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Old 03-15-2016, 10:45 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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Southeastern China is far more subtropical in the forest biome.


http://www.des.ucdavis.edu/faculty/R...%20foresst.pdf
















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Old 06-03-2017, 02:34 AM
 
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Southeastern China is far more subtropical in the forest biome.


http://www.des.ucdavis.edu/faculty/R...%20foresst.pdf
















That's an incredibly skewed, no, blatantly incorrect map.
That map seriously categorizes places like Henan province as being in a "Subtropical forest biome"? That's absurd.
Forests in China, reasonably farther south until you get to about northern Guangdong and southern Fujian, are dominated by deciduous trees. They're far more dead and much less "subtropical" than similar areas in the US.

Tom, you frequently go off on anti-American screeds that seem to have the general goal of making the United States appear to be as geographically and climatologically unappealing as possible. Are forest biome maps going to become your next pet argument?

From my experience, maps like those are typically crafted by westerners, particularly Americans, who simply aren't familiar with China's climatological and ecological make up.

In short, they make the slight adjustment of making China's subtropical forest biome larger on such maps simply because China sits a latitudinal degree or two below the US on average. But that says nothing about ecology and it says nothing about climate, as it's already common knowledge that Chinese locales at similar latitudes to an American counterpart are often colder, due to the influence of the Siberian arctic high.

For example, even when China descends below the Tropic of Cancer, it remains Humid Subtropical. The only exception is a very small slice of southern Yunnan.

Henan has as much Subtropical forest as Kentucky does. Same with Jiangsu vs Virginia

Your "The US is a continental wasteland" argument holds just zero water. Sorry. It's simply factually false, and you're scrounging for every ounce of information, however skewed, that can validate your constant underselling and outright slandering of American climates.

Going by all notable climate and ecological data, the US should actually be listed as having more subtropical forest biomes than China.
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