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Old 08-06-2011, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Buxton, England
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If we have another winter like last year then Buxton's classification may have to change to "subarctic/boreal".
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Old 08-06-2011, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Katy, Texas
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Not Honolulu, I meant to use Hilo as the example
My statement still applies. LOL.
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Old 08-06-2011, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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Even you try it's hard to divide climate zones in a way that would make them relatively equal in size.

Some climate zones are just going to be smaller than others (Mediterranean climates etc.). So, if you wanted to make, say San Francisco's, and nearby coastal California's, type of climate a new group separate from say Mediterranean Europe or Australia, and also separate from the maritime climates of the Pacific Northwest, it'd be even tinier on a map, compared to something like the boreal zone.
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Old 08-06-2011, 11:38 AM
 
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My statement still applies. LOL.
Your statement does not apply. Houston January average high is Hilo's average low. When comparing the highs strictly, they are only 10 degrees apart.
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Old 08-06-2011, 12:06 PM
 
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Even you try it's hard to divide climate zones in a way that would make them relatively equal in size.

Some climate zones are just going to be smaller than others (Mediterranean climates etc.). So, if you wanted to make, say San Francisco's, and nearby coastal California's, type of climate a new group separate from say Mediterranean Europe or Australia, and also separate from the maritime climates of the Pacific Northwest, it'd be even tinier on a map, compared to something like the boreal zone.
Coastal California, the Pacific Northwest, as well as coastal Alaska and the Canadian province of BC are all in the same climate group, a marine influenced type. Marine West coast is the proper name for this type of climate. The climate of coastal CA is not a unique phenomenon like you're making it out to be! The Pacific Northwest gets colder winters due to its higher latitude location.
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Old 08-06-2011, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Katy, Texas
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Your statement does not apply. Houston January average high is Hilo's average low. When comparing the highs strictly, they are only 10 degrees apart.
Houston's average January temperature: 54*F
Hilo's record low: 53*F


Houston's average January high: 63*F
Hilo's average January high: 79*F

10 degrees?
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Old 08-06-2011, 12:49 PM
 
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Houston's average January temperature: 54*F
Hilo's record low: 53*F


Houston's average January high: 63*F
Hilo's average January high: 79*F

10 degrees?
I repeat again, Houston January average high is Hilo's average low. There are places in the tropics that are just as cool as Houston on average, nothing shocking.
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Old 08-06-2011, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Katy, Texas
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I repeat again, Houston January average high is Hilo's average low. There are places in the tropics that are just as cool as Houston on average, nothing shocking.
So Hilo's winter is just as cool as Houston's winter?
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Old 12-08-2011, 11:09 AM
 
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I think Sydney ought to be considered subtropical rather than temperate.


Anchorage has only three months averaging 50+ F, hence subpolar.

NYC is subtropical according to Koppen, but I don't think it should be considered truly subtropical in view of the cold (albeit still fairly mild by North American standards) winters.

Houston is solidly subtropical (although at least one member here thinks it should be classified subarctic ) but definitely not tropical -- winters are very mild but not nearly warm enough to qualify as a tropical climate under Koppen.
Agree with you. Houston is solidly subtropical, definitely not tropical !

According to Koppen, tropical climate has to have an AVERAGE monthly temperatures above 18C (64.4F), and Houston is well below that, it's Jan high/low is only 17.2C(62.9F)/6.2C(43.2F), so the monthly AVERAGE should be around 10C(50F) which DISQUALIFIES Houston as tropical !

But good try though
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Old 12-08-2011, 11:11 AM
 
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I think NYC is way too cold to be subtropical.
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