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Seems very unlikely that given last December was the first below freezing CET month since Feb 86 we would get another one just a year later. I think it will be an average to slighty above average winter in terms of temperatures.
Hopefully the councils in England will have more sense this time around to order more rock salt to salt the roads up and the sidewalks. I had enough of walking on icy sidewalks last December
Seems very unlikely that given last December was the first below freezing CET month since Feb 86 we would get another one just a year later. I think it will be an average to slighty above average winter in terms of temperatures.
A repeat of last year seems likely though obviously not as cold as December, which was only 0.2 degrees away from being the coldest ever.
Personally, I think the UK and Ireland are long overdue a reminder of how cold February can be, the last few haven't been that cold, and February 2011 was the mildest since 2002.. not cool!
Hopefully the councils in England will have more sense this time around to order more rock salt to salt the roads up and the sidewalks. I had enough of walking on icy sidewalks last December
They ordered a lot of it last year but when temperatures fall below -7C (12F), it becomes useless. We need to try and get more people shoveling snow themselves, rather than the council doing it all.
They ordered a lot of it last year but when temperatures fall below -7C (12F), it becomes useless. We need to try and get more people shoveling snow themselves, rather than the council doing it all.
I agree, but unfortunately the health and safety culture I've witnessed when I was there is going to prevent that. Someone slips on a bit of ice and runs into someone's fence and the council is liable for an injury lawsuit. That's what my gf told me anyway, and that you can't shovel your own snow because your snow might cause someone to fall and you're liable to be sued as well
I agree, but unfortunately the health and safety culture I've witnessed when I was there is going to prevent that. Someone slips on a bit of ice and runs into someone's fence and the council is liable for an injury lawsuit. That's what my gf told me anyway, and that you can't shovel your own snow because your snow might cause someone to fall and you're liable to be sued as well
Your girlfriend is right. I don't think it's a common occurrence at all but it certainly does happen. Health and Safety gone crazy. Though, most councils do actually encourage the shoveling of snow, but most people are scared to do it in fear of being sued.
They ordered a lot of it last year but when temperatures fall below -7C (12F), it becomes useless. We need to try and get more people shoveling snow themselves, rather than the council doing it all.
Where I'm from landowners are required to shovel their snow to keep the sidewalks clear.
Your girlfriend is right. I don't think it's a common occurrence at all but it certainly does happen. Health and Safety gone crazy. Though, most councils do actually encourage the shoveling of snow, but most people are scared to do it in fear of being sued.
Sounds ridiculous, but what else should we expect in our litigious society?
I agree, but unfortunately the health and safety culture I've witnessed when I was there is going to prevent that. Someone slips on a bit of ice and runs into someone's fence and the council is liable for an injury lawsuit. That's what my gf told me anyway, and that you can't shovel your own snow because your snow might cause someone to fall and you're liable to be sued as well
Those lawsuits are not really that common and it's just the fear of them rather than the reality that does the damage. Where my parents live is on a side street off the main road in their village which is too steep for a gritter or snow plough to get through, so when it snows people always clear the snow off the road themselves around the junction, because if they didn't it would be a road accident waiting to happen. Though still everywhere in this country I can remember, when the normal trick of waiting a day for the snow to melt doesn't work icy pavements often do become deathtraps for older people.
As for the winter, I wouldn't be at all surprised if we get at least some unusually cold weather with the seas around us being colder than normal. It mostly depends on where the jet stream chooses to lie - it can be -10C by day in central Europe, snowing in Athens etc but if we can tap into the Atlantic air it can be 10-12C here at the same time. I'm fine with cold so long as it's not so prolonged to cause disruption since I highly doubt any councils have invested in extra snow removal equipment when their budgets are being slashed.
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