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The cold vs. hot arguments that seem to be the bread and butter of this forum nowadays make it sound as though we only have a choice between stifling triple-digit heat and frigid sub-zero cold. There is a middle ground.
I comment on how pleasant temperatures in the 60s are and you still lash out. Who are you kidding?
"Good weather" to me is 68F, humid, and sunny, 75F, humid, and partly sunny / mostly cloudy (probably my ideal), or 82F, sunny, and dry (although cooling to near the dewpoint at night so I don't get a dry nose or my skin doesn't chap). This is what I feel to be the perfect conditions for most outdoor activities.
Exactly, I never see people say they enjoy windy, rainy and cold.
Interestingly though, today it is only 35°F here but sunny with no wind, and it feels a lot warmer than a damp humid 40-45°F day, many of which we've had recently. My nose didn't even run at all! There's definitely truth to the belief that sunny weather at colder temperatures feels much warmer than "mild" cold and damp/humid. I notice it very easily.
I have never heard anyone stand outside in 95 degree, high humidity weather and seriously say "Ooo-what a lovely day". What I do hear (and say) is "Well, let's get this @!&* over with".
I am endlessly astonished by how narrow minded so many of you here are regarding hot weather.
Can you stop denying us the right to have preferences that differ from yours?
FYI, I enjoy that kind of weather and I can name many other posters here who also do. But I guess we're all delusional, sarcastic and/or actually spend our life in AC.
I am sorry for you that your body cannot handle 80°F+ temps, just like I could not possibly run for 1 hour when it's 0°F or camp under the snow unlike some people here who do it and enjoy it.
Exactly, I never see people say they enjoy windy, rainy and cold.
For what it's worth, I love a cold rain with wind to boot, outside of winter (as long as it isn't pouring all the time).
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Huh? Not sure what you're referring to here.
But I think 60s are too low for a summer afternoon, hence my frequent frustration during our summer cool spells here.
Certainly 60s are pleasant during winter. My ideal climate would have highs in the mid-to-high 60s during winter.
My ideal weather during the "summer months" is in the 60's for highs, but that sort of weather certainly isn't a real summer, which is the one season I care to eliminate. However, I consider the intersection of many heat lover's winters with many cold lover's summers to be quite interesting, as the same weather seems to be preferred at opposite times of the year.
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I could say the same of rainy 40 F weather.
The cold vs. hot arguments that seem to be the bread and butter of this forum nowadays make it sound as though we only have a choice between stifling triple-digit heat and frigid sub-zero cold. There is a middle ground.
Of course. Different people have different optima, some of which fall within subzero or triple-digit temperatures (Fahrenheit), and some of which fall around a mild 60 or 70 Fahrenheit.
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dhdh, many of your fellow warm/heat lovers are usually the ones saying 'you're a freak, you can't like those temperatures!'..
These arguments are silly anyway..
That is true. It amuses me to read heat lovers complaining about disrespect for their weather preferences at the hands of the cold-oriented when far more disregard for differing preferences comes from heat lovers, directed against cold lovers. Sometimes the very same people disregarding, disrespecting, and attacking preferences for cold weather as unnatural, inhuman, or somehow wrong, are the ones complaining of their preferences being disrespected. There is disrespect on both sides, for instance saying heat lovers don't really love heat because they have air conditioning or can't exercise in heat, but are somehow delusional, and on one forum I saw disparaging heat-lovers as "lizards" (I admit it was refreshing to see some vitriol in the opposite direction). However there seems to be far more disregard for winter people than the other way round. Perhaps because they are not the "in-crowd" when it comes to Western culture, cold lovers seem to have a better grasp of the subjectivity of weather preferences.
However, every participant has the capacity for respect, and everyone's preferences should be respected, as there is no objective rightness when it comes to climate or weather, except as it relates to an individual's own preferences or activities.
We're here to discuss weather and explore our own and each other's preferences, so the hot versus cold arguments are worth having, at least as it relates to rationales for prefering or hating certain weather. This is something of interest and can be a learning experience, but attempting to prove each other "wrong" is fruitless. Many statements made about general people are valid as it relates to observations and anecdotes. For instance, cold rain seems to be quite unpopular is a valid statement, at least as far as my experience is concerned.
But again, we must remember all this is subjective, and this argument we're getting in concerning what "everyone" or "noone" likes or dislikes in weather, having a tinge of an assertion of objectivity, is stupid and will end up being counterproductive and disparaging towards the preferences of all concerned.
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I am endlessly astonished by how narrow minded so many of you here are regarding hot weather.
Can you stop denying us the right to have preferences that differ from yours?
FYI, I enjoy that kind of weather and I can name many other posters here who also do. But I guess we're all delusional, sarcastic and/or actually spend our life in AC.
I am sorry for you that your body cannot handle 80°F+ temps, just like I could not possibly run for 1 hour when it's 0°F or camp under the snow unlike some people here who do it and enjoy it.
I've been able to "handle" Florida summers for the past 40+ years, and no I don't work in an office. Do what I do for a year and we'll see how "lovely" you find 95 degree/high humidity temperatures. I'm no different than the poor guy who does my job in Buffalo N.Y. during their winter. Extreme temperatures on either side of the thermometer suck for those who have to be out in it every day.
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(although I don't live in your country).
