Rate the climate - Pensacola, Florida (tornado, snow, storm, season)
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Why do you always have to attack me and make feel stupid? That's not very nice. You could show some understanding that I don't have time to look at every single weather station and stats for both cities. You really hurt my feelings.
This is a weather forum. I'm a Civil Engineer and I like data and stats. I didn't think anything stupid at all about you. I didn't mean for you to interpret it in a way that made you think you were being attacked. However, as I learned long ago, it is important to realize how other people interpret your intentions. I'm sorry for making you think I was attacking you.
I like to get to the truth and bottom of things. I didn't think it accurate to say that Victoria averages less frosts than a place on the US Gulf Coast. Seaside, Oregon sits right on the Pacific Ocean and gets way more frosts than Pensacola (31 vs 14), so I knew something was up as soon as you posted that.
I didn't mean anything personal by it, and I apologize if you took offense. It's a weather forum, which is inherently science and fact based.
The best aspect of this climate for me is the rainfall and the thunderstorms. The summers are clearly too warm but I could easily make this place work for me. If only I could combine the rainfall of this climate with the summers of Saint John, New Brunswick and the winters of St John's, Newfoundland.
tom77falcons, I have to side with deneb78 on this one.
It IS possible that locations much farther north to avg less frost days than
US Gulf coast.
United Kingdom's Isles of Scilly off the coast of Cornwall,
temps rarely dip below freezing. Coldest temperture ever recorded
was -6.4c (approx 20F) and that's at 50 degrees north of the equator!
As for your coments regarding Victoria, firstly Victoria's airport is
located in Sidney,BC (25 kms /16 miles north) and has significantly different climate than Victoria itself.
Phyllis Street weather station is not downtown, does not benefit from Victoria's heat island (I doubt it has much of a heat island ...it's not NYC, London, or Philly LOL)
deneb78 used Gonzales Heights weather station data anyway,
which again is not located downtown either.
No one is saying that Victoria is as "warm" as Pensacola or anywhere in northern Florida.
I like Florida and have spent many fun vacations in the state, I'm not knocking it but Florida can be prone to cold snaps.
Sometimes much colder temps than you'd expect for how far south it is.
Tallahassee (state capitol) coldest temp was -2F (-19c) in 1899.
Some places in coastal BC have never reached that cold ever,
record cold for example: Merry Island -11.7c, Amphitrite Point -12.8c
B for summers being somewhat hotter and more humid than ideal. But otherwise a pretty good climate. Precipitation is a bit high but the number of precipitation days is reasonable.
tom77falcons, I have to side with deneb78 on this one.
It IS possible that locations much farther north to avg less frost days than
US Gulf coast.
United Kingdom's Isles of Scilly off the coast of Cornwall,
temps rarely dip below freezing. Coldest temperture ever recorded
was -6.4c (approx 20F) and that's at 50 degrees north of the equator!
As for your coments regarding Victoria, firstly Victoria's airport is
located in Sidney,BC (25 kms /16 miles north) and has significantly different climate than Victoria itself.
Phyllis Street weather station is not downtown, does not benefit from Victoria's heat island (I doubt it has much of a heat island ...it's not NYC, London, or Philly LOL)
deneb78 used Gonzales Heights weather station data anyway,
which again is not located downtown either.
No one is saying that Victoria is as "warm" as Pensacola or anywhere in northern Florida.
I like Florida and have spent many fun vacations in the state, I'm not knocking it but Florida can be prone to cold snaps.
Sometimes much colder temps than you'd expect for how far south it is.
Tallahassee (state capitol) coldest temp was -2F (-19c) in 1899.
Some places in coastal BC have never reached that cold ever,
record cold for example: Merry Island -11.7c, Amphitrite Point -12.8c
I know there are many microclimates up there. Also, many locations in an oceanic climate get very few frosts compared to the gulf coast. However, did you see the location of Phyliss Street when you plot the coordinates in google earth. It is sitting right on the water at the edge of a penisula. Why does Victoria Marine get so many more frosts than Pensacola? It is sitting just at only 100 feet in elevation, but is further outside the city.
I know there are many microclimates up there. Also, many locations in an oceanic climate get very few frosts compared to the gulf coast. However, did you see the location of Phyliss Street when you plot the coordinates in google earth. It is sitting right on the water at the edge of a penisula. Why does Victoria Marine get so many more frosts than Pensacola? It is sitting just at only 100 feet in elevation, but is further outside the city.
Both Gonzales Heights and Phyliss Street record a similar amount of frosts, so I doubt it's a fluke from one station. Both of them are right on the edge of the peninsula, but Phyliss Street isn't in a built up area and Victoria is a small city, anyway. So, I think the penisula is a bigger effect than any urban heat island effect. Sure, it's a microclimate, but it is a real climate of interest and relevant since those values are likely the natural values.
A slight concern is that Pensacola's all time record low is only 7 degrees (fahrenheit) warmer than the all time record low of where I live, that's a little spooky.
A very nice climate with mild winters hot humid and rainy summers and the ability to grow many types of subtropical or warm temperate trees and shrubs. I give this climate a solid B.
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Average Temps are good enough, but too much rain, and too humid in summer
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