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Old 02-16-2013, 12:06 PM
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7 days?! That seems wildly optimistic to me. Certainly, the Met don't publish such data to the public.
I download 10 years' worth of summer data from your link if I was bored and get the number of days with a max >= 28°C. Is there a text download form of daily data, or even all in one file?
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Old 02-16-2013, 12:09 PM
 
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Well the Met do have historic station data, but only monthly averages from years of the past as opposed to daily data.
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Old 02-16-2013, 12:09 PM
 
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I only counted one day in your list of over 28C.

I agree there would be lots of temps in the upper 70's, but not low 80's. I was there during very warm weather and it never cracked 80F. It was very nice and warm though.

I think the London wiki data was either posted by B87 or Galah, lol. Just seems to way overstate the "heat" of a London summer.
I have not posted any stats to Wikipedia, such things are not that important in my life, unlike others it seems...

With respect I live in the UK, in the south east, and temperatures during the summer of 28C are common, quote whatever stats you can find on the internet (cos they are bound to all be true) but I live here, you don't...
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Old 02-16-2013, 12:13 PM
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With respect I live in the UK, in the south east, and temperatures during the summer of 28C are common, quote whatever stats you can find on the internet (cos they are bound to all be true) but I live here, you don't...
The bigger issue is our definition of "common", coming from a climate where 28°C is the July-August monthly average high, I'm going to perceive it as rare there.
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Old 02-16-2013, 12:13 PM
 
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From Wiki:

Summers are generally warm and sometimes hot, the heat being boosted by the urban heat island effect making the centre of London at times 5 °C (9 °F) warmer than the suburbs and outskirts. London's summer average is 24 °C (75.2 °F). On average there are 7 days a year above 30 °C (86.0 °F) and 2 days a year above 32 °C (89.6 °F). Temperatures of 26 °C (80 °F) usually occur on a weekly basis from mid- June to late August.


Not that I believe everything from Wiki, but claiming London avg high all summer is 75F, if that is true, is based purely on UHI, and not the natural climate. I'd like to see the latest averages showing London has an avg high of over 75F all summer long. I don't believe it.
75F is London's average high in July and August thats a fact.

Temperature of 28c isn't common in London but does occur a couple of times every summer. Here is data from August 2012 Meteociel - Climatologie mensuelle de London (UK) and June 2010 Meteociel - Climatologie mensuelle de London (UK)

Also why is it so important for you to know if London reaches 28c if a Londoner on here says 'yes 28c is common we get those temps a couple times' why do think they're lying or need hard proof can't you find the proof yourself (online)
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Old 02-16-2013, 12:14 PM
 
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What is your definition of "very common"? I'm sorry, I'm just not buying that a temp of over 82F is "very common" in London during the summer. The avg high temp doesn't even crack 75F during any month there.

I'd like to see some avg data showing how many days per year London has a temp over 82F.

Imo, "very common" would be something like 2 days per week, or at least 1 day per week all summer long. I doubt London gets that.
"very common" in the sense that 28C is frequently acheived during an average summer & that such a temperature is not unusual, not that it is 28C at least twice a week... If the average is 24C, it doesn't take much of a stretch to have a temperatures 4C above that, most years London reaches at least 32C or 33C...
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Old 02-16-2013, 12:15 PM
 
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82.4F is very common?

Prove it with data showing how many days a year London has a high temp over 82.4F.
Idk but it happens all the time
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Old 02-16-2013, 12:16 PM
 
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The bigger issue is our definition of "common", coming from a climate where 28°C is the July-August monthly average high, I'm going to perceive it as rare there.
Like I just said "common" in that it is nothing unusual or special to have a temperature of 28C & it will be acheived failry frequently during an average summer in any warm spells. It isn't rare at all...
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Old 02-16-2013, 12:17 PM
 
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I only counted one day in your list of over 28C.

I agree there would be lots of temps in the upper 70's, but not low 80's. I was there during very warm weather and it never cracked 80F. It was very nice and warm though.

I think the London wiki data was either posted by B87 or Galah, lol. Just seems to way overstate the "heat" of a London summer.
You are not from London. You dont live there.

He is right it reaches 28c loads of times in the summer.
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Old 02-16-2013, 12:20 PM
 
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The bigger issue is our definition of "common", coming from a climate where 28°C is the July-August monthly average high, I'm going to perceive it as rare there.
28C is not rare in London and will be reached a few times each summer, but very common, as I said, is an overstatement. Those in the SE quadrant of the UK enjoy exaggerating their summer warmth, while belittling the rest of the country as a summerless hellhole. They're the same on all weather forums.
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