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...I know they're using June to May. I don't see how that makes it less valid. Using your own source, May to April was 2nd warmest, and April to March was 5th. And all ten have occurred since 1999. You mean to tell me that's pure coincidence?
Because when you get an average temperature "per year", it starts with month #1 of that year and ends with month 12 of that year. This way you can get an accurate number of what the temperature was "for that year".
Sure you can start March 13th and end February 12th of the next year. You can do anything you want to get data, but once again, its a great way to deceive & decept the public by picking a time frame which we dont use to get an "annual" "yearly" temperature.
The Earth...and U.S has not been warmer since 1998.
Because when you get an average temperature "per year", it starts with month #1 of that year and ends with month 12 of that year. This way you can get an accurate number of what the temperature was "for that year".
Sure you can start March 13th and end February 12th of the next year. You can do anything you want to get data, but once again, its a great way to deceive & decept the public by picking a time frame which we dont use to get an "annual" "yearly" temperature.
The Earth...and U.S has not been warmer since 1998.
Why does the fact that our calendar starts on January 1 make any difference here?
Because when you get an average temperature "per year", it starts with month #1 of that year and ends with month 12 of that year. This way you can get an accurate number of what the temperature was "for that year".
Sure you can start March 13th and end February 12th of the next year. You can do anything you want to get data, but once again, its a great way to deceive & decept the public by picking a time frame which we dont use to get an "annual" "yearly" temperature.
The Earth...and U.S has not been warmer since 1998.
Starting March 13th is no more arbitrary than starting on January 1. It is probably simplest to start on the same date as the beginning of a calendar year, yes, but January 1 is no more climatologically significant than any other date.
No one is being deceptive about it. Even though you put "per year" in quotes, all that is actually being stated is that this was the warmest 12 month period in recorded history, which it was. I don't think anyone is taking that the wrong way.
Starting March 13th is no more arbitrary than starting on January 1. It is probably simplest to start on the same date as the beginning of a calendar year, yes, but January 1 is no more climatologically significant than any other date.
No one is being deceptive about it. Even though you put "per year" in quotes, all that is actually being stated is that this was the warmest 12 month period in recorded history, which it was. I don't think anyone is taking that the wrong way.
Im always open to learning and hearing opinions so I'm curious, if one would want to draw a trend line, what time period would you use? June to May? January to December? September to August? You cant keep switching every year, there has to be consistancy in the data.
Im always open to learning and hearing opinions so I'm curious, if one would want to draw a trend line, what time period would you use? June to May? January to December? September to August? You cant keep switching every year, there has to be consistancy in the data.
Like I said, starting January 1 is probably the simplest so if I had to choose one date and one date only, that would be it. What I'm saying is that a 12 month period isn't irrelevant just because it doesn't start on the same date as the calendar year. As long as you compare it to equivalent time periods, the data is valid.
And so far, since January 1, this has been the warmest calendar year to date. Use whatever date you want; there is unusual heat occurring in the US right now.
Use whatever date you want; there is unusual heat occurring in the US right now.
I'm totally not denying the "heat"..I'm just not understanding why they keep pushing it instead of showing that we been cooling past 13yrs. (over a decade).. or data that shows the cold U.S in 2008,,
Looking at some data..we havent been below normal since 1996. It can be spinned both ways but Obviously there's one way we always hear about.
Check this out...I plotted the U.S temps on a graph. These are the actual annual data for temperature means.
0 = Normal.
Last 4 years have been cooler than any of the previous 10 years combined.
Without 1998, 1999 & 2006 we would be below the 1 degree mark. Still above normal but ranging between .80 & 0.
In my opinion it looks like a peak will happen for 2011 so we head down for 2012.
The sad thing is, the futher down we drop the more drastic the drop wil be with a volcano eruption or lack of sun spot will be.
I'm totally not denying the "heat"..I'm just not understanding why they keep pushing it instead of showing that we been cooling past 13yrs. (over a decade).. or data that shows the cold U.S in 2008,,
Looking at some data..we havent been below normal since 1996. It can be spinned both ways but Obviously there's one way we always hear about.
We should see and hear about all of the data, not just the data that is consistent with a warming or cooling agenda. A competent media would do just that.
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