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Old 07-20-2012, 07:38 AM
 
Location: London, UK
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Yup. I was there in August and it was 17°C and overcast...
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Old 07-20-2012, 07:46 AM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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The 3061 hours reading is from the sunniest part of the city. The cloudiest part of the city is likely more similar to Eureka than 3061 hours. Supposedly, climate has a bit of an effect on neighborhood desirability.
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Old 07-20-2012, 08:25 AM
 
Location: USA East Coast
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Bizarre to see San Francisco on the list. Know it has microclimates, but it definitely didn't feel sunny when I was there.
I've often said that too...but locals in the Bay area tell me that their is a great variation to what areas of the city see alot of sun and what areas see far less. It seems strange that a place with a often cool and foggy conditions just offshore gets that many hrs of sunshine. Perhaps the NWS reporting station is in one of these microclimates. Still, in the several trips I made to the central coast, the sun always seemed to appear as I was moving southward just around Santa Cruz...along with all the surfers - lol.
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Old 07-20-2012, 08:46 AM
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I've often said that too...but locals in the Bay area tell me that their is a great variation to what areas of the city see alot of sun and what areas see far less. It seems strange that a place with a often cool and foggy conditions just offshore gets that many hrs of sunshine. Perhaps the NWS reporting station is in one of these microclimates. Still, in the several trips I made to the central coast, the sun always seemed to appear as I was moving southward just around Santa Cruz...along with all the surfers - lol.
The other issue is that the foggiest/cloudiest areas have a sunshine minimum in the summer, so if you visit in the summer they appear cloudier than they really are. But once you get out of the "fog belt" sunshine (except in early morning / late evening) is mostly a given in the warmer months. Neat to have a climate where the cloudiness is concentrated at or near nighttime.

Time I was on the North Coast of California (early June) I saw a decent amount of sunshine during the day but every night was cloudy. Horrible place for an observatory.
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Old 07-20-2012, 08:54 AM
 
Location: In transition
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I'm going to San Francisco next week. Curious to see if their summers live up to their foggy reputation and how the sunshine and temp compare with a Vancouver summer. Any idea what part of SF the reporting station that gets 3061 hours is in? Is it the airport?
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Old 07-20-2012, 09:06 AM
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I'm going to San Francisco next week. Curious to see if their summers live up to their foggy reputation and how the sunshine and temp compare with a Vancouver summer. Any idea what part of SF the reporting station that gets 3061 hours is in? Is it the airport?
Mission Dolores (Mission District), just south of Downtown. Interesting historic site (mission church where the city started from in Spanish / Mexican times). It's on the east side of the city far from the ocean plus hills block the fog. Last place to get fog, first place for fog to get it. The airport is outside of the city limits, also east of the hills, but the hills are taller and completely block the fog, a good choice in siting an airport.

The coast by the Cliff House of San Francisco has some cool bluffs you can walk down to the ocean, but the weather is often cool and cloudy, barely more than 60°F.

In contrast, Eureka's airport was built by the military to test flying in foggy conditions, so they picked the foggiest possible site in the area. Now it's for civillian use, but the locals are stuck for the poor site.
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Old 07-22-2012, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Interesting that I haven't seen any South American cities on the lists. (Unless I have skipped some).

The city of San Juan, Argentina, has a population of 471,000 including the metro area, and according to this site: http://hitchwiki.org/es/San_Juan_(Argentina), it has a daily average of 9 hours of sun, which gives a total of 3240 hours annually. I don't know how reliable that site is, and the fact that Mendoza (just some 150 miles south) has 2589 hours makes me wonder about the accuracy of the data. Anyway, at least San Juan should deserve an honorable mention in South America. I don't think it has less than 2800 hours.
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Old 07-23-2012, 04:13 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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If SF on the list shouldn't San Jose be on the list? More to the point, shouldn't Sacramento and Fresno be on the list?

Where's Riyadh, Mecca, Medina, Aden, Amman?
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Old 07-23-2012, 04:24 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Either a typo or trollolol bullcrap.
I was wondering myself then I googled it and found it was in the Netherlands ANTILLES.
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Old 07-23-2012, 04:55 AM
 
Location: Laurentia
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It seems strange that a place with a often cool and foggy conditions just offshore gets that many hrs of sunshine. Perhaps the NWS reporting station is in one of these microclimates.
Sun can often shine through fog. In the probably 100+ fogs that I've encountered in my lifetime, I've seen only one or two that could block out sunshine. These would probably be more common in San Francisco, but I imagine most of the time it wouldn't block out the sunshine, and you still have the rest of the day for the sun to shine continuously. Downtown is also the primary place that gets these fogs. Other parts of the city don't get as much or intense of a fog as downtown. As far as I know, the NWS station is in Downtown.
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