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Under Köppen's climate classification, this is a subtropical climate but just barely. Look it up.
Winters are just warm enough to qualify as C instead of D and summers are just warm enough to qualify as A instead of B. It's Cfa not Cwa by the way.
I don't care about Koppen or his classification system. It's not a be-all end-all bible. 5 months of the year with a high below 10C and low under freezing? Is that subtropical?
Any place that gets winters that cold is not subtropical. Absolutely ludicrous to place a climate similar to central Europe in the same bag as the likes of Brisbane, Florida etc.
Create your own classification system called 'Flight Simmer system' or something, and place every single climate on earth in whatever you consider it. I'm sure you'll be placing Melbourne under the polar variety.
Hmm... good one, tvdxer. This is a great example climate showing the faults of Koeppen.
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Originally Posted by Candle
Under Köppen's climate classification, this is a subtropical climate but just barely. Look it up.
Winters are just warm enough to qualify as C instead of D and summers are just warm enough to qualify as A instead of B. It's Cfa not Cwa by the way.
Yeah, I know. It's right at the edges for 4 different zones, so it's about as subtropical as it is oceanic or continental really. (It's firmly continental under Trewartha though) Regardless, I don't have too many problems with it. Snow depth data would be good though. I would downgrade it to a B+ or B if it's lower than here.
Create your own classification system called 'Flight Simmer system' or something, and place every single climate on earth in whatever you consider it. I'm sure you'll be placing Melbourne under the polar variety.
Once again, common sense is being ganged up on by a bunch of blind sheep.
I'm sorry if it is impossible to grasp the concept that a place with lows under freezing for 5 months of the year is not subtropical. But, clearly it is, as Koppen and his very generalised magical climate rating system says so, right?
Brisbane is subtropical. Florida is subtropical. Sao Paulo is subtropical. This is not. Cold enough to snow for 1/3rd of the year, winter highs barely above freezing, sub-zero lows for a good 5 months and anemic summers to boot. If this is subtropical, then what is Melbourne with its 15C warmer winters? Full blown equatorial eh?
No sorry, this climate has nothing subtropical about it, despite what your disciple says.
"Humid subtropical" has a definition, and that definition was defined by Koeppen as a climate featuring at least one month with a mean temperature of at least 22C and no months with mean temperatures below -3C. This climate fits that definition.
This particular city experiences an average of 120-130 days below freezing and 5 days with sub-0F minima, with an average growing season starting in late April and lasting until early to mid October.
Snowfall generally accumulates for about three or four weeks at the most during an average winter, but that varies greatly. In warmer winters, there is little snow and it does not stay on the ground for long. In colder winters, there can be consistent snow cover for up to two months at a time. Winters in this city are practically defined by constant freeze-thaw cycles.
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