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Old 11-01-2012, 05:11 AM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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oh my god. -2.5c in 2010.
That is absolutely amazing. We definately got much much lower than that.
I can't believe that you have only had temperatures as low as that when only a week ago I had a min around that. Very weird.

It makes my climate look like the arctic.

I think we are in zone 8a bordering 7b in some of the inland hilly areas. This is an excellant hardness map for the UK, very accurate. http://www.plantmaps.com/uk_plant_ha...s_zone_map.php

I guess I should be thankful that I don't live in Portsmouth and stop moaning about how mild it is here.
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Old 11-01-2012, 05:24 AM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK
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Zones are worked out from an average of absolute minimums over a 30 year period. I worked out Portsmouth's from the Southsea weather station data & it came in within the 9b threshold.

Most of the UK & Ireland are in zones 8a & 8b (Only highland Scotland has a zone 7a & highest ground in northern England has 7b).

Northern Ireland is not any lower than 8a in the interior, with 8b around 30/40 miles from the coast & 9a around the coast itself. Southern Ireland has 9b around the far south west coasts, with some areas even being 10a.

The only part of the UK to have a 10a climate zone are the Scilly Isles.
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Old 11-01-2012, 05:27 AM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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Zones are worked out from an average of absolute minimums over a 30 year period. I worked out Portsmouth's from the Southsea weather station data & it came in within the 9b threshold.

Most of the UK & Ireland are in zones 8a & 8b (Only highland Scotland has a zone 7a & highest ground in northern England has 7b).

Northern Ireland is not any lower than 8a in the interior, with 8b around 30/40 miles from the coast & 9a around the coast itself. Southern Ireland has 9b around the far south west coasts, with some areas even being 10a.

The only part of the UK to have a 10a climate zone are the Scilly Isles.
Well that map disagrees, I would say that there are a few hilly areas in Tyrone that may just make it into the 7b boundary.

Where do you get the data to calculate the absolute minimum? I will be using a station other than magilligan for sure as its minimum temperatures are like 5c warmer than mines.
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Old 11-01-2012, 05:34 AM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK
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Well that map disagrees, I would say that there are a few hilly areas in Tyrone that may just make it into the 7b boundary.

Where do you get the data to calculate the absolute minimum? I will be using a station other than magilligan for sure as its minimum temperatures are like 5c warmer than mines.
Eh? That map pretty much agrees with what I wrote lol...

Anyway that map is just a general interpretation, it says Portsmouth is in zone 9a, the same as areas a few miles inland, where it gets much colder in winter (my Mum lives inland from Portsmouth & she gets much more frost & snow than I do) also central London is definitely 9b...

I had to get the data for Southsea from the Met Office as it isn't available online anywhere. They do usually charge though, unless it is for academic research.
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Old 11-01-2012, 05:39 AM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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No you said that in Northern Ireland areas in 8a are 40 miles inland well if that was the case. The areas in 8a would only cover a very small area.

I was thinking of doing it with ogimet but then that would take several hours. Is there a way of going onto ogimet and any other websites and getting the extreme minimum for a station in a year.
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Old 11-01-2012, 05:47 AM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK
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No I said 8b was within 30/40miles from the coast, with the rest of the interior 8a, ok maybe around 20-30 miles inland if we are being pedantic lol
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Old 11-01-2012, 05:49 AM
 
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Ok whatever you say. I will just relay on the map.

So, is there nowhere that we could calculate this?
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Old 11-01-2012, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK
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But the map pretty much says what I said give or take a few miles lol!

Besides there are DOZENS of zone maps about that say different things, the most accurate maps are from the Met Office, but they don't do a zone one...

You can only calculate it if you have data from your nearest weather station.
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Old 11-01-2012, 06:03 AM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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Yes, but where do you get the data for free?

There is data on Ogimet but I don't know how to calculate the zone that I am in?
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Old 11-01-2012, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Laurentia
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There is data on Ogimet but I don't know how to calculate the zone that I am in?
You take the winter minimums for each year and average them out. Let's say you have minima of 0F, -9F, -25F, 1F, and -4F. That would average out to -7.4F over those 5 years, placing you in zone 6a. You need at least 20 years of data to get a good handle on it, but that's how it's done.
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