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View Poll Results: what do you think?
keep it as is 16 16.16%
change to year round daylight time 39 39.39%
change to round standard time 23 23.23%
change to year round compromise time (half hour between the two) 6 6.06%
I don't care but I do just wish we could stick to one of them 11 11.11%
I really don't care either way 4 4.04%
Voters: 99. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-25-2014, 10:53 AM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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Old 03-25-2014, 10:55 AM
 
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I realize that. How does it invalidate my point? People go on about it like it's something so horrible and yet it has been happening to many for as long as those places have been inhabited. Why can't anybody else do it too? Daylight, IMO, will always be more useful after work/school than before. Year round DST is the best option in my book.
It is horrible.
1. Its pointless. Especially at my latitude of 55N where the sun is up for 17.5 hours. It does not matter what you do because it will be bright most of the time. Actually it will be broad daylight for about 20 hours because civil twilight does not end to about 11:30 and starts again at 3:30.
2. It is quite exhausting as you have to go around changing the clocks and then you have to actually adjust.
3. Causes some issues with people forgetting time.
4. Waste of time really.

And really if is going to be done, then yes year round. But as i've said before that will NOT work in Ireland we are already in some cases 45 minutes ahead of local time so we do NOT need to add another hour onto that. And really I do not want 10am sunrises. And no we will not adjust our time one hour to suit Europe. They can stuff themselves if they think we will inconvenience ourselves for their inconveniences!
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Old 03-25-2014, 10:59 AM
 
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Its even more pointless in countries like Norway where I don't actually understand why it is needed?
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Old 03-26-2014, 01:52 AM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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It is horrible.
1. Its pointless. Especially at my latitude of 55N where the sun is up for 17.5 hours. It does not matter what you do because it will be bright most of the time. Actually it will be broad daylight for about 20 hours because civil twilight does not end to about 11:30 and starts again at 3:30.
2. It is quite exhausting as you have to go around changing the clocks and then you have to actually adjust.
3. Causes some issues with people forgetting time.
4. Waste of time really.

And really if is going to be done, then yes year round. But as i've said before that will NOT work in Ireland we are already in some cases 45 minutes ahead of local time so we do NOT need to add another hour onto that. And really I do not want 10am sunrises. And no we will not adjust our time one hour to suit Europe. They can stuff themselves if they think we will inconvenience ourselves for their inconveniences!
I thought you hated earlier sunsets and love the nice, long, and late drawn out dusks of summer? My argument IS for a year round DST, at least in the states. Even here in Seattle with standard time I used to have to go to school in the dark around the solstice and it wasn't bad.
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Old 03-26-2014, 01:56 AM
 
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Well yes I agree. America is too far behind, they should definately just leave the clocks on DST permantely.
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Old 03-26-2014, 04:36 AM
 
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I realize that. How does it invalidate my point? People go on about it like it's something so horrible and yet it has been happening to many for as long as those places have been inhabited. Why can't anybody else do it too? Daylight, IMO, will always be more useful after work/school than before. Year round DST is the best option in my book.
Here in the tropics, its at hot as 25-35 C. So late sunsets make we feel exhausted.
Especially in The hot metropolitan Jakarta, even sunset at 6.10pm is relatively late for Jakarta people!!! (latest sunset there is 6.17pm)
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Old 03-26-2014, 04:54 AM
 
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6pm sunsets in summer are rediculous!!!
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Old 03-26-2014, 05:43 AM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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(latest sunset there is 6.17pm)
Oh my. Way too early for the sun to be setting! The latest sunsets of the year here are at 9:11pm!
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Old 03-26-2014, 06:22 AM
 
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In the case of South East Queensland, I think they should move to a new timezone, GMT +10h30m would bring Brisbane's solar noon to a more logical ~12:10pm.
It was when you posted in September, where the equation of time is positive. If Brisbane will changed to GMT+10:30, Mean solar noon time (average) will be 12:18 instead of 11:48, 1.5 times further from mean solar time.
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Old 03-26-2014, 06:24 AM
 
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Oh my. Way too early for the sun to be setting! The latest sunsets of the year here are at 9:11pm!
But is way too late for the tropics, especially the hot Jakarta.

The earliest sunset there is 5.44pm.
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