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Old 01-06-2013, 11:23 AM
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Location: Surrey/London
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But the definition of an ice day is a day where the temperature does not rise above 0C. A frost is when the temperature falls below 0C.
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Old 01-06-2013, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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The link I posted would disagree. Maybe the Met Office have a definition?
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Old 01-06-2013, 11:29 AM
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Well everyone seems to have different definitions then.

This site has the opposite definitions to mine. Weather Facts: Jack Frost - Weather UK - weatheronline.co.uk

Frost = at or below 0C
Ice day = below 0C
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Old 01-06-2013, 11:41 AM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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Off topic for Europe, but New York City averages 17 ice days a winter and its winter average maximum is around 5°C so a high of 5°C can have more ice days. Does a max of 0°C count as an ice day?
No the max must be below 0.0c

NYC has a large sd so temperatures will diverge off the average alot.
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Old 01-06-2013, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK
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Yes because id be suprised if the record low was -10c. That sounds a bit too high.
Not really. The record low here is -8.0C & is similar in some other south coast towns/cities...

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-20C sounds quite exaggerated, that's near the record low for Paris. -10C for Central London sounds about right.
Yes the official record low for London is -10.0C, recorded at Camden Square in 1947...
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Old 01-06-2013, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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Central London, yes. Temperatures have fallen lower than that in the suburbs more recently. -20C will never be a verified temperature, but it isn't totally unrealistic prior to the 20th century, when the Thames froze over, in the area known as Greater London today (which hasn't always been one big urban lump). It was like a totally different climate. Kew may have been a real frost hollow at one point, for all we know.
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Old 01-06-2013, 01:47 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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You talking about the little ice age?
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Old 01-06-2013, 02:24 PM
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Central London, yes. Temperatures have fallen lower than that in the suburbs more recently. -20C will never be a verified temperature, but it isn't totally unrealistic prior to the 20th century, when the Thames froze over, in the area known as Greater London today (which hasn't always been one big urban lump). It was like a totally different climate. Kew may have been a real frost hollow at one point, for all we know.
Kew has pretty cold minima for the London area even now. The reason the river used to freeze over was because it used to be wider, shallower and slower. Since the embankments were built, it flows faster and won't freeze again.
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Old 01-06-2013, 02:31 PM
 
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Even so, the depth of cold was a lot greater back then. Even if it were slower-moving, I wouldn't expect it to freeze over, maybe a few ice flows during very cold winter months.
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Old 01-06-2013, 02:44 PM
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Kew Minima vs other London stations.

----Kew--LHR--Hampton--Greenwich
Jan: 1.8C/2.3C/2.6C/3.1C
Feb: 1.7C/2.1C/2.3C/2.7C
Mar: 3.4C/3.9C/3.9C/4.6C
Apr: 4.7C/5.5C/5.5C/5.9C
May: 7.9C/8.7C/8.6C/8.9C
Jun: 10.8C/11.7C/11.7C/11.8C
Jul: 13.0C/13.9C/13.8C/13.7C
Aug: 12.7C/13.7C/13.7C/13.8C
Sep: 10.3C/11.4C/11.3C/11.4C
Oct: 7.4C/8.4C/8.4C/8.8C
Nov: 4.1C/4.9C/5.2C/5.8C
Dec: 2.1C/2.7C/3.0C/3.4C
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