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Old 05-20-2013, 08:15 AM
 
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Does Newark airport weather station is more representative of the temperature in Manhattan than central park and La Guardia weather station ?

Manhattan is a urban hot zone , central park is a woody cool zone.
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Old 05-20-2013, 08:33 AM
 
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No, Manhattan would be. Perhaps you mean which would be the better weather station if you wanted to see what Manhattan's temperatures would be without the UHI. In that case, it's got to be Central Park since that's actually in Manhattan and less urban. Newark has a pretty big UHI effect itself, too ,you know. Besides, if you want to know the temperature in Manhattan, you obviously have to consider the UHI since it affects what the temperatures actually are and what people there will experience.
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:07 AM
 
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This is an interesting question. Central Park does a good job of representing itself, but I wouldn't go further than that. I feel as though Manhattan could use an additional official weather station that's actually located in the concrete jungle, and I think Bryant Park would make an excellent location.

Even right now on Wunderground you can clearly see the areas next to Central Park are in the low 70's while most other areas south of there (Midtown, etc.) are in the upper 70's.
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Old 05-21-2013, 07:43 AM
 
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The urban environment presents a lot of artificiality that impedes accurate weather observation, so the location in Central Park seems excellent. However, I think a secondary weather station deeper in the urban heat island would be useful as well, if only to gauge the effects the urban heat island really has on temperatures in NYC. It would also give me more of a reason to blast NYC's heat and humidity .
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Old 05-21-2013, 09:22 AM
 
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Does Newark airport weather station is more representative of the temperature in Manhattan than central park and La Guardia weather station ?

Manhattan is a urban hot zone , central park is a woody cool zone.

CP is a pretty fair estimate of NYC area temps in the urban zone. I love the NYC urban zone - it helps keep the uglyness of winter in check
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Old 05-23-2013, 01:49 PM
 
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This is an interesting question. Central Park does a good job of representing itself, but I wouldn't go further than that. I feel as though Manhattan could use an additional official weather station that's actually located in the concrete jungle, and I think Bryant Park would make an excellent location.

Even right now on Wunderground you can clearly see the areas next to Central Park are in the low 70's while most other areas south of there (Midtown, etc.) are in the upper 70's.
It is one questions who interests me a lot and anybody here know if Manhattan already has probably to exceed 110°F?
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Old 05-23-2013, 05:43 PM
 
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I don't much difference betwen JKF and CP and frankly any other NYC weather
station.

CP daily mean stats maybe average 1 degree lower, not a big deal.

I highly doubt temp ever reaching 110F, too close to the coast for that.
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Old 05-23-2013, 07:39 PM
 
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I don't much difference betwen JKF and CP and frankly any other NYC weather
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CP daily mean stats maybe average 1 degree lower, not a big deal.
That's the thing, there is no official weather station in a very dense part of NYC, you're basically comparing areas that are pretty much unlike the city as a whole, Central Park is a forest, JFK is practically in the ocean, LaGuardia is also sitting in the water, and then there's Newark which is landlocked and covered in concrete, so it's no surprise (to me) that some feel it better represents Manhattan during the summer months as they're the most alike.

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I highly doubt temp ever reaching 110F, too close to the coast for that.
Being near the coast is irrelevant, it'd be different if the wind only blew from one direction, but it doesn't. Dubai is a coastal city, and it's record high is 120F. I'd be shocked if Manhattan has never seen 110F+, Newark has hit 108F and LaGuardia has hit 107F, and they're nowhere near as dense as Manhattan.
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Old 05-23-2013, 07:40 PM
 
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I don't much difference betwen JKF and CP and frankly any other NYC weather
station.

CP daily mean stats maybe average 1 degree lower, not a big deal.

I highly doubt temp ever reaching 110F, too close to the coast for that.
New Jersey, just to the east of NYC, has hit 110 F twice in the last 100 years.
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Old 05-28-2013, 11:43 AM
 
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I don't much difference betwen JKF and CP and frankly any other NYC weather
station.

CP daily mean stats maybe average 1 degree lower, not a big deal.

I highly doubt temp ever reaching 110F, too close to the coast for that.
NYC is situated in a East coast and not benefit from big moderating marine effect , this situation allows widely has New York to exceed 110°F and Manhattan is very dense zone with many buildings and Central Park is a very very bad representation of true temperature in new york urban area (central park is a forest) !

For example in 21 and 22 June, 2012 when it made 94°F in Central Park it made 98°F in La guardia and 99°F in newark and 97°F in Boston (Less hot than new york ) !

As the said Infamous92 it would be necessary time to build a weather station in a smaller and more closer park of the urban zone as bryant park.

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