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Summer temperatures in the UK are often into the 80's (well in the South East anyway) 70's is the 'average' though - last summer was an exception! Truly awful!!
next two weeks in my hometown in the South East (a degree or two less than London usually)
lots of nice days in there. why all the talk about the crap summers you are having recently? I wish I was going on vacation there those weeks. I'm sick of 90'sF already and it is only June. I like mid 80'sF for high temps, but those days look very pleasant for touring around.
I don't like anything over 90F as it just is too uncomfortable with our humidity here. I had plenty of 90'sF temps in Seville, Spain one summer, but it was much more comfortable with the low humidity.
Remember that Gatwick isn't actually in London, but near the town of Crawley. Of course the point you are making is still valid, but just a reminder.
Gatwick is within the metro area of London though right? About 35 miles from Heathrow, and 25 miles from St James Park?
Here is a comparison of some of the major NYC stations. Newark isn't in New York City but within the metro area, and 18 miles of Central Park, 23 miles from LaGuardia and 30 miles from JFK.
Because of it's proximity to the ocean, NYC sees a little be more of a difference in monthly temps between the stations.
lots of nice days in there. why all the talk about the crap summers you are having recently? I wish I was going on vacation there those weeks. I'm sick of 90'sF already and it is only June. I like mid 80'sF for high temps, but those days look very pleasant for touring around.
I don't like anything over 90F as it just is too uncomfortable with our humidity here. I had plenty of 90'sF temps in Seville, Spain one summer, but it was much more comfortable with the low humidity.
Yeah our summers here are awful if you want to be active outdoors, despite the fact that dew points here (Harrisburg area) are a bit lower than over there in Philly. Our weather is great if your average day consists of sitting in an office all day with nothing to do at home. Part of my job is working outside at night, and the humidity has been unbearable the last 2 weeks. I remember my first summer in southeast England, it was the best ever. The Brits don't know how good they have it.
Aww, London's winning. I can't help but feel a wave of patriotism swelling in my heart.
You should. London summers actually allow people to be active outside without ending up smelling like sweaty gym socks at the end of the day. I've done the whole walk all around Central Park in July, and I end up drinking several bottles of water during the course of the day
Seems that there is not much in the way of local climate variations in London, with the largest difference being 0.5C in the summer between Heathrow and Gatwick. A little bit larger in January.
To be fair Heathrow is right on the extreme edge of what is classed as Greater London, right next to areas that are classed as Berkshire & Gatwick is not in London at all, it is in West Sussex...
And those weather station stats are odd, London City Airport has it's own weather station so not sure why it is using data from Greenwich & Gatwick is using data from Charlwood in Surrey?
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Gatwick is within the metro area of London though right? About 35 miles from Heathrow, and 25 miles from St James Park?
No Gatwick isn't in the 'metro area' it is in the middle of the countryside in West Sussex, Heathrow isn't really either it is on the outskirks...
To be fair Heathrow is right on the extreme edge of what is classed as Greater London, right next to areas that are classed as Berkshire & Gatwick is not in London at all, it is in West Sussex...
And those weather station stats are odd, London City Airport has it's own weather station so not sure why it is using data from Greenwich & Gatwick is using data from Charlwood in Surrey?
No Gatwick isn't in the 'metro area' it is in the middle of the countryside in West Sussex, Heathrow isn't really either it is on the outskirks...
Why the interest in man made urban heat island temperatures though? All those stations within the urban areas of London are affected by the UHI. Airports, even though night temps with radiational cooling are frost hollows, seem more realistic for natural temps. Or stations that are on the outskirts of the UHI. Downtown or heavily urban areas are not natural climates. Farms and agrictultural areas are all outside the UHI as well. Suburban areas are also outside the UHI usually.
They are not natural climates, but hold significant populations. Most people in the UK live in towns or cities, so airports are not representative most of the time, especially when they are located at 208m above sea level on exposed high ground! Or for example, when Birmingham Airport fell to -21C in the 80s, and a station closer to the city centre only fell to -13C.
Why the interest in man made urban heat island temperatures though? All those stations within the urban areas of London are affected by the UHI. Airports, even though night temps with radiational cooling are frost hollows, seem more realistic for natural temps. Or stations that are on the outskirts of the UHI. Downtown or heavily urban areas are not natural climates. Farms and agrictultural areas are all outside the UHI as well. Suburban areas are also outside the UHI usually.
Because that's where most people live, in larger urban areas... If anything most of our weather stations are situated in artifical man made environments as they are at airports/airbases. Most of the temperatures recorded in the winter are in no way representative of where most people live as they are man made frost hollows...
As an example "Bournemouth" weather station is not even situated in Bournemouth, it is several miles inland at the airport in Hurn, a rural location on sandy soil that is often records some of the coldest temperatures in southern England. Last night it dropped to 4C there! Along the coast here my low was 11.4C & I expect it was similar in Bournemouth too.
I don't see why we don't have more weather station in cities, as regardless of why the temperatures are higher, they are & people experience those temperatures...
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