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Old 06-20-2013, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Finland
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@Ariete: I could only find data for the swedish "Karesuando", but since there is also a finnish village called Karesuvanto, which has pretty much the same temperatures, I'd say that it is the coldest in Finland (January).. at least colder than Muonio.
I'm referring only to official FMI stations. There's surely a lot of microclimates that have colder averages.

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and btw, ariete, i dont know what the highest average max in the warmest month is for stations in sweden, alltough målilla, sweden, has 23,6C as an average high in july between 1996-2012
Not good enough. Even Helsinki has an average July high of 23.9C if looking only at 2000-2012 stats. I'm sure you can find some SE Finland stations that have an average of 24.0C+ when looking at recent 12-14 years. Try to find it out, if SMHI has that data.
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Old 06-20-2013, 02:57 PM
 
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As far is I know, SMHI hasn't much Max/Min-Data and I use the it pretty often... and regarding Finland: Yes, i know that there may be other places that are colder, but of course we can only include place, of which at least some data is available... But i think Karesuvanto is a different case, cause it's basically the same place as Karesuando so that we can use that data for finland, too.
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Old 06-20-2013, 03:15 PM
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Lee-On-Solent has an average low of 14.2C in July & 14.3C in August (& Southsea's LTA min is 15.0C)
What is Southsea's annual mean, it must be close to Scilly or central London?
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Old 06-20-2013, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Bangkok, Thailand
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I'll take a stab at New Zealand:

Warmest annual mean temperature: 15.7 C - Kaitaia
Coldest annual mean temperature: 7.6 C - Arthur's Pass (?)
Warmest average temperature in the warmest month: 20.4 C - Auckland (Albert Park)
Warmest average max temperature in the warmest month: 25.9 C - Te Teko
Coldest average temperature in the coldest month: 1.3 C - Twizel (?)
Coldest average high temperature in the coldest month: 5.8 C - Arthur's Pass (?)
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Old 06-20-2013, 04:01 PM
 
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I'm referring only to official FMI stations. There's surely a lot of microclimates that have colder averages.



Not good enough. Even Helsinki has an average July high of 23.9C if looking only at 2000-2012 stats. I'm sure you can find some SE Finland stations that have an average of 24.0C+ when looking at recent 12-14 years. Try to find it out, if SMHI has that data.

unfortunatly, there isnt any public available data on this.
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Old 06-20-2013, 04:46 PM
 
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update of the german data:

The place with the warmest mean in the warmest month is actually not Karlsruhe but Freiburg (Breisgau) with 20.8°C (although one station in Stuttgart observed 20.9°C, but since other Stuttgart-station were way colder, I wouldn't consider it to be the warmest place... Nonetheless Karlsruhe remains the warmest regarding the highest average high temperature in the warmest month with 26.6°C

For the coldest I also got data of the 81-10 period, in which Zinnwald-Georgenfeld was still the coldest inhabited place in Germany with a mean of -3.8°C in January (compared to -4.9°C in the 61-90 period).. It holds also the record for being the place with the coldest annual mean temperature (4.9°C, 81-10).

Warmest coldest-month mean temperature: Duisburg (3.3°C, January, 81-10)
Coldest warmest-month mean temperature: Carlsfeld(Sachsen) (14,2°C, 81-10)... Zinnwald-Georgenfeld: 14,3°C

Highest annual mean precipitation: Balderschwang - 2464 mm
Lowest annual mean precipitation: both Bad Lauchstädt and Rothenburg(Sachsen-Anhalt) - 473 mm

Since I can't use the option of editing my first post in this forum, I will collect the data, which is posted in this thread, in a separate Excel-chart so that I can share it with you again, when we've collecte more data...
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Old 06-20-2013, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK
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What is Southsea's annual mean, it must be close to Scilly or central London?
Yes it's around 12C...
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Old 06-20-2013, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Finland
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unfortunatly, there isnt any public available data on this.
Another reason to dislike Sweden. Unbeliavble, the SMHI is paid with your tax money!
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Old 06-20-2013, 09:43 PM
 
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I'll give Canada a try.. although please correct me if you think I got something wrong

Warmest annual mean: 11.0°C Vancouver Harbour, BC
Coldest annual mean: -19.7°C Eureka, NU
Warmest average month: 22.7°C Windsor, ON
Coldest average month: -38.4°C Eureka, NU
Warmest average high: 29.2°C Osoyoos, BC
Coldest average high: -34.9°C Eureka, NU
Warmest average low: 18.0°C Pelee Island, ON
Warmest high for coldest month: 8.1°C Amphitrite Point, BC
Coldest high for summer month: 5.9°C Alert, NU
Highest temperature recorded: 45.0°C Midale & Yellow Grass, SK
Lowest temperature recorded: -62.8°C Snag, YT
Lowest record high temperature: 18.3°C Resolute, NU
Highest record low temperature: -11.7°C Merry Island, BC
Hottest heat index (or humidex in Canada): 53.0°C Carman, MB
Coldest wind chill: -78.0°C in Kugaaruk, NU
Wettest year round precip: 6,903mm Henderson Lake, BC
Driest year round: 75.5mm Eureka, NU
Most sunshine year round: 2,512.9 hours - Medicine Hat, AB
Least sunshine year round: 1,229.1 hours - Prince Rupert, BC
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Old 06-20-2013, 10:12 PM
 
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well, that precipitation high isnt correct. dont what the rainiest place in sweden is, but torup (halland) for example has 1156mm as annual precipitation (1961-1990).

and its no surprise that finland has warmer coldest-month averages than sweden, since fmi use the newer (81-10) averages. however, im kind of surprised that finland doesnt have colder winter averages than sweden since its further east. but that is due to finlands flat topography and lack of frost hollows i guess.
It's especially interesting, when you look at this SMHI-map of the 1931-1960-period, which actually shows northern Finland with colder Winter-temperatures than northern Sweden: http://www.smhi.se/polopoly_fs/1.124...uari_web18.png
But nevertheless, I couldn't find any finnish station, which has colder winter-temperatures than Jokkmokk, Nikkaluokta, Kurravaara or Karesuando (which is of course also finnish)... Only explanation is, as you said, the flat topography of Finland, but that doesn't explain the SMHI-map, either.
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