
02-15-2014, 11:17 PM
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Location: Broward County, FL
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Originally Posted by Yn0hTnA
Yeah, that is one thing about the US (East of the Rockies) I dislike; the only lands there that have winter stability are the inland portions of Central/South Texas ( Austin, San Antonio, Laredo, etc), the Texas Coast and barrier islands (Houston/Galveston, Corpus Christi,etc), Lousiana Coast and Delta ( New Orleans metro), extreme coastal Mississippi, and Alabama, the entire state of Florida, and Georgia, South Carolina, and North Carolina east of the Appalachians( Brunswick, Savannah, Charleston, Myrtle Beach, Cape Hattaras).
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Again, more talking out of your ass. If there's anything the South is known for it's erratic winters where it can be 70 F one day and 35 F the next. If you really believe the South is "stable" in the winter then you're a fool.
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02-15-2014, 11:48 PM
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Location: A subtropical paradise
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Originally Posted by alex985
Again, more talking out of your ass. If there's anything the South is known for it's erratic winters where it can be 70 F one day and 35 F the next. If you really believe the South is "stable" in the winter then you're a fool.
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The places I mentioned are the portions of the South that do exhibit winter stability. A few odd days of deviation doesn't take away from the many days in a row of stability those areas of the South can get. People on this forum like to exaggerate the supposed "bipolarness" of the South's winters. In reality, it isn't all that drastic, and such deviations occur only a handful of times.
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02-15-2014, 11:55 PM
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Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
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Originally Posted by L.A.-Mex
Stats say those beaches have summers in the 80s ( with exception of palos verdes I included it to show it is close, off by two degrees), who are you to say that those readings are wrong any ways, again I will believe these sources rather than you
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For goodness sakes, I am using your data and it shows you are incorrect!!!
Average summer high for Laguna Beach, Dana Point, and San Clemente: 78F
Average summer high for Palos Verdes Estates and San Pedro: 76F
The only location you provided that meets the criteria: Long Beach and vicinity at 81F.
Again, this is using your data--questionable as it may be. But even your data do not show that the LA beaches have average summer highs in the 80s. One single beach (Long Beach) might but that is the exception. None of the others do.
(As a footnote, using the valid data from NOAA and other sources even Long Beach falls short at 78.2F average high in the summer.)
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02-15-2014, 11:57 PM
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Location: Broward County, FL
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The Midwest also has many days in a row with near-normal temperatures at times during winter. Doesn't take away from the fact that it can be 40 F one day and 0 F the next day. It's not like the Midwest is constantly fluctuating in the winter, doesn't mean it's stable. In Tallahassee where I live (I'm in Clarksville, TN right now) on the week of Jan 25-29 it went from 75 F on the 25th for a high, to 37 F on the 27th, back up to 67 F on the 29th. Not only that, on Jan 5th the high was 68 F, the next day the high was 35 F, the day after that it was 53 F and then 73 F on the 9th. That is NOT stable, and yes this Jan has been a bit colder than normal, but those erratic temperature swings happen quite frequently in the South, there is no denying that.
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02-16-2014, 12:33 AM
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Location: A subtropical paradise
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Originally Posted by alex985
The Midwest also has many days in a row with near-normal temperatures at times during winter. Doesn't take away from the fact that it can be 40 F one day and 0 F the next day. It's not like the Midwest is constantly fluctuating in the winter, doesn't mean it's stable. In Tallahassee where I live (I'm in Clarksville, TN right now) on the week of Jan 25-29 it went from 75 F on the 25th for a high, to 37 F on the 27th, back up to 67 F on the 29th. Not only that, on Jan 5th the high was 68 F, the next day the high was 35 F, the day after that it was 53 F and then 73 F on the 9th. That is NOT stable, and yes this Jan has been a bit colder than normal, but those erratic temperature swings happen quite frequently in the South, there is no denying that.
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In a normal year, the swings (if any) would not be that drastic. The Coastal South is a tranquil subtropical climate in contrast to the continental Midwestern climate. The temps you posted for Tallahassee just proved that any cold that does visit the Coastal South is driven out within a day, where it is then replaced with week after week of mild temps.
The US South is one of the best subtropical regions in the world. The only ones that beat it are the ones in South America, Africa, and Australia (and that is a given, because they are either on smaller continents, or on continents that don't stretch too far poleward).
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02-16-2014, 12:40 AM
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Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
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Originally Posted by Yn0hTnA
The US South is one of the best subtropical regions in the world. The only ones that beat it are the ones in South America, Africa, and Australia (and that is a given, because they are either on smaller continents, or on continents that don't stretch too far poleward).
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So, subtropical regions ranked in terms of continents go like this then?
1. South America
2. Africa
3. Australia
4. North America
5. Eurasia
In other words, it's 4th in a five-horse race. Doesn't sound that perfect after all.
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02-16-2014, 12:43 AM
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Location: Broward County, FL
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I can provide several more examples, in January 2009 Tallahassee went from a low of 18 F on the 22nd, to a high of 59 F on the same day, and a high of 70 F the next day!! And then a couple of weeks later, Tallahassee had a low of 14 F on February 5th and then the temp went up to 70 F on February 7th, not to mention the low of 24 F on that same day. Later on that month on February 28th the temperature was 79 F at 2 pm, the next day (March 1) at the same time the temperature was 41 F. And this is only 2009.
And yeah the U.S. has the best subtropical climate in the world, except for 3 of the other 4 continents that have subtropical climates. Yeah, such a great subtropical climate  just more talking out of your ass from you.
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02-16-2014, 02:14 AM
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Location: A subtropical paradise
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Originally Posted by Ed's Mountain
So, subtropical regions ranked in terms of continents go like this then?
1. South America
2. Africa
3. Australia
4. North America
5. Eurasia
In other words, it's 4th in a five-horse race. Doesn't sound that perfect after all.
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The US subtropics are rather warm given the situation they are in (located on a large continent that goes to the arctic). Take that liability out of the equation, and the US Subtropics would be equivalent to, or surpass even Australia.
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Originally Posted by alex985
I can provide several more examples, in January 2009 Tallahassee went from a low of 18 F on the 22nd, to a high of 59 F on the same day, and a high of 70 F the next day!! And then a couple of weeks later, Tallahassee had a low of 14 F on February 5th and then the temp went up to 70 F on February 7th, not to mention the low of 24 F on that same day. Later on that month on February 28th the temperature was 79 F at 2 pm, the next day (March 1) at the same time the temperature was 41 F. And this is only 2009.
And yeah the U.S. has the best subtropical climate in the world, except for 3 of the other 4 continents that have subtropical climates. Yeah, such a great subtropical climate  just more talking out of your ass from you.
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What you posted obviously isn't normal for Tallahasee; and it shows just how dominate the heat is in the American Subtropics, where cold is sent away after a day.
Given the situation it is in, the subtropical region of the US is actually the best in the world.
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02-16-2014, 10:07 AM
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Location: Broward County, FL
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It is normal for Tallahassee, it happens every single year. And obviously warmth dominates It's at 30 N at low elevation for crying out loud , but radical changes happen every year.
Aren't you the same idiot that proposed that idea of building a barrier across the U.S to stop cold snaps from coming down, and now you're arguing that the SE is stable? Which one is it? 
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02-16-2014, 10:10 AM
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