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Old 11-01-2013, 11:36 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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I suppose I meant it was more mediterranean than subtropical and was making a guess. But I agree that it is oceanic.
Yep, classic text book Oceanic.

On the other hand... in the real world, when it comes to things like gardening or house design or anything directly affected by climate, it would be better to think of Melbourne as a Mediterranean climate.
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Old 11-02-2013, 12:33 AM
 
Location: Seattle
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I think we need to break sub-tropical into more categories so it can be more specific. like Semi-tropical would be for the climates that are borderline tropical like Miami. then Sub-tropical for areas that are hardiness zone 9+ with the avg temp for no month falling below 10c. Then warm temperate for all other areas with the avg temp for the coldest month from -3c to 10c.
-3c? that is firmly continental. Make it 0C. I hate that -3C isotherm.
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Old 11-05-2013, 05:47 AM
 
Location: Rome
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...and after lots of (electronic) ink sprinkled on numerous sheets of (electronic) paper no agreement has been reached yet.

No univocal definition of "subtropical".
It means different things to different people...
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Old 06-25-2015, 04:33 AM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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I think we need to break sub-tropical into more categories so it can be more specific. like Semi-tropical would be for the climates that are borderline tropical like Miami. then Sub-tropical for areas that are hardiness zone 9+ with the avg temp for no month falling below 10c. Then warm temperate for all other areas with the avg temp for the coldest month from -3c to 10c.
I really agree with this.

NYC being subtropical is just ridiculous. The thing is, because of its cold winter, I just couldn't call it "warm temperate". NYC is definitely a warmer end of the humid continental climate I would say. Washington DC and Philadelphia are warm temperate climates, despite their cool winters.
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Old 06-25-2015, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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I really agree with this.

NYC being subtropical is just ridiculous. The thing is, because of its cold winter, I just couldn't call it "warm temperate". NYC is definitely a warmer end of the humid continental climate I would say. Washington DC and Philadelphia are warm temperate climates, despite their cool winters.
I disagree as someone that lives in Philadelphia. We are also warmer end of humid continental not warm temperate. Warm temperate to me is Wilmington NC and parts of the interior South maybe 30-50 miles from the coast.

The monthly mean in Charleston, SC is right at 50F so just makes your cut. Further south Savannah, Beaufort, HHI are all above 50F in January.
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Old 06-25-2015, 08:57 AM
 
Location: New York
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I really agree with this.

NYC being subtropical is just ridiculous. The thing is, because of its cold winter, I just couldn't call it "warm temperate". NYC is definitely a warmer end of the humid continental climate I would say. Washington DC and Philadelphia are warm temperate climates, despite their cool winters.
Winters in NYC aren't any colder than they are in Philadelphia.
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Old 06-25-2015, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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I really agree with this.

NYC being subtropical is just ridiculous. The thing is, because of its cold winter, I just couldn't call it "warm temperate". NYC is definitely a warmer end of the humid continental climate I would say. Washington DC and Philadelphia are warm temperate climates, despite their cool winters.

You think Philly is much warmer in winter?

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Winters in NYC aren't any colder than they are in Philadelphia.
Nope, they aren't. In fact November is colder in Philly by a hair.



My favorite is football in snow and here are the Philadelphia Eagles December 8, 2013 playing in a blizzard. It actually snowed in Philly before Connecticut and Boston. lol

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Old 06-25-2015, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Arundel, FL
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Why, you think Philly is warmer in winter?



Nope, they aren't. In fact November is colder in Philly by a hair.
I bet the difference is mostly in the lows. PHL has less UHI and it's further inland.
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Old 06-25-2015, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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I bet the difference is mostly in the lows. PHL has less UHI and it's further inland.

Depends also on what station is being used in NYC. Philly airport compared to Central Park is apples to oranges. How bout we set up a station in Rittenshouse Sqauare and compare that to Central Park. I'll bet Rittenhouse would be warmer than Central Park in every single month. We don't have a station sitting in the middle of the largest city in America. And Central Park isn't rural enough to claim it is outside the huge UHI of Manhattan. The Philly and NYC UHI's are not comparable.
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Old 06-25-2015, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Arundel, FL
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Depends also on what station is being used in NYC. Philly airport compared to Central Park is apples to oranges. How bout we set up a station in Rittenshouse Sqauare and compare that to Central Park. I'll bet Rittenhouse would be warmer than Central Park in every single month. We don't have a station sitting in the middle of the largest city in America. And Central Park isn't rural enough to claim it is outside the huge UHI of Manhattan. The Philly and NYC UHI's are not comparable.
There is a station at the Franklin Institute. And yes, it is much warmer than Central Park in every month. I should add that it is the northernmost station in the US with a month averaging a low above 70 F.
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