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View Poll Results: How often do lows above 80 F occur where you live
Couple times per year 12 19.05%
Once every couple years 9 14.29%
Once every decade 5 7.94%
Never 37 58.73%
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Old 11-03-2013, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Broward County, FL
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The same in Rimini, Italy. It's incredible!
However, I guess Northern Florida coastal cities have much higher record minimums than Tallahassee...

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Chicago has hotter highest minimum than you at 85 F. This year, Even Minneapolis had 3 nights above 80 F. So much for the "hot humid south" .
The temperatures here don't deviate much from average during the summer here like they do in mid-latitude climates, so while lows above 80 F are very rare, so are lows below about 66 F or so. Average low is 72 F (22 C) here in July and August, so about 95% of the time the lows are about 68-76 F (20-24.4 C) here. Also we are not nearly as urban as Chicago or Minneapolis, so during a bad heat wave in the Midwest, I can easily see how Minneapolis or Chicago can stay above 80 F. St. Louis (as of late) has had particularly warm nights during summer, check out July 2012 in St. Louis:


History : Weather Underground


Compare that to June 1998 here in Tallahassee:
History : Weather Underground

Tallahassee and St. Louis have pretty similar summer temperatures, but a hot month in St. Louis will likely be hotter than a hot month here in Tallahassee since they can deviate more from their average during the summer, and a bigger UHI effect in St. Louis also contribute to the warm nights.

I think I read somewhere that Lincoln, NE had a 91 F low during the July 1936 heat wave, but I'm not sure it's accurate.
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Old 11-03-2013, 03:17 PM
 
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We have less days a year when the high temperature is above 80 degrees than many places in USA, and no lows at 80 or above.. Who would want to live where the temperature did not cool off at night to make it pleasant to live there.
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Old 11-03-2013, 03:23 PM
 
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The temperatures here don't deviate much from average during the summer here like they do in mid-latitude climates, so while lows above 80 F are very rare, so are lows below about 66 F or so. Average low is 72 F (22 C) here in July and August, so about 95% of the time the lows are about 68-76 F (20-24.4 C) here. Also we are not nearly as urban as Chicago or Minneapolis, so during a bad heat wave in the Midwest, I can easily see how Minneapolis or Chicago can stay above 80 F. St. Louis (as of late) has had particularly warm nights during summer, check out July 2012 in St. Louis:


History : Weather Underground


Compare that to June 1998 here in Tallahassee:
History : Weather Underground

Tallahassee and St. Louis have pretty similar summer temperatures, but a hot month in St. Louis will likely be hotter than a hot month here in Tallahassee since they can deviate more from their average during the summer, and a bigger UHI effect in St. Louis also contribute to the warm nights.

I think I read somewhere that Lincoln, NE had a 91 F low during the July 1936 heat wave, but I'm not sure it's accurate.



^^


It's true, that the city of Chicago does see higher minimum temps than nearby suburban and rural stations, but I think that there is a combination of both a large UHI, plus a large body of water which limits radiative cooling.


However, I don't think that the UHI greatly increases St Louis' minimums. Probably to some degree.... Still, they can just plain hot in the summer.



Btw,

That minimum temp in Lincoln NE is accurate.



It happened during the infamous broiler of July 1936

Collegeville Indiana is about 60 miles from the city of Chicago




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Chicago has hotter highest minimum than you at 85 F.
Chicago also has a higher absolute maximum.


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So much for the "hot humid south" .

Their consistently hot humid summers blow "hot here or there" summers out of the sky.
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Old 11-03-2013, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Northville, MI
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^^


It's true, that the city of Chicago does see higher minimum temps than nearby suburban and rural stations, but I think that there is a combination of both a large UHI, plus a large body of water which limits radiative cooling.


However, I don't think that the UHI greatly increases St Louis' minimums. Probably to some degree.... Still, they can just plain hot in the summer.



Btw,

That minimum temp in Lincoln NE is accurate.



It happened during the infamous broiler of July 1936

Collegeville Indiana is about 60 miles from the city of Chicago





The same heat wave slammed Jersey as well. 110 F in Runyon (12.5 miles from here) is the highest all time temperature recorded statewide. However, the town no longer exists today and is incorporated as part of Parlin, NJ, a suburb 32 miles from NYC.
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Old 11-03-2013, 03:49 PM
 
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102 days a year.
Where do you live?
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Old 11-03-2013, 04:09 PM
 
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Once every decade. Lows rarely cross 75 F in NJ.

If they do, the media says "historic, lethal, monstrous heatwave engulfs the northeast", and starts talking about stricter policies for combating global warming .
At least 2 months of the year.
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Old 11-03-2013, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Broward County, FL
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I also think the fact that St. Louis is located right on the Mississippi River may contribute to warm nights as well.
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Old 11-03-2013, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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Where do you live?
In Coltingbury, NuFakudamia or whatever it's called.
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Old 11-03-2013, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Paris
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Never. Might have occured during the 2003 heat wave in the very heart of the city where I used to live. Might not. No records. Paris-Orly doesn't reach 70°F half of the years, let alone 80°F.


Here are the highest lows for the last few summers. I included an amateur station in the heart of Paris. Wish Meteo France hadn't closed its central Paris weather station.

Orly (airport in the suburbs) - Montsouris (official central Paris station) - Saint-Germain (amateur)

2000: 19.2°C _ 20.5°C
2001: 19.8°C _ 21.9°C
2002: 21.6°C _ 21.3°C
2003: 23.5°C _ 25.5°C
2004: 20.8°C _ 21.5°C
2005: 21.3°C _ 22.3°C
2006: 21.2°C _ 23.5°C
2007: 19.4°C _ 18.7°C
2008: 19.7°C _ 20.3°C
2009: 21.8°C _ 21.8°C
2010: 20.6°C _ 22.6°C _ 23.9°C
2011: 21.9°C _ 22.1°C _ 23.9°C
2012: 20.8°C _ 22.4°C _ 23.8°C
2013: 20.8°C _ 23.3°C _ 25.6°C
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Old 11-03-2013, 07:01 PM
 
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The same heat wave slammed Jersey as well. 110 F in Runyon (12.5 miles from here) is the highest all time temperature recorded statewide. However, the town no longer exists today and is incorporated as part of Parlin, NJ, a suburb 32 miles from NYC.
Yup, that was one incredible July.


Check out the absolute maximum daily and monthly average highs from that month in Northeast Illinois. Chicago's official readings were taken one mile from the lake a the UofC so they were lake cooled. Midway airport was recording extreme temperatures at that time, but some of the suburbs and outlying towns had unprecedented temperatures. Seriously? 19 days at or above 100F less then 60 miles from the city limits with an average maximum that month of over 100 degrees? Jesus...




Notice, that the minimum temps were not all that impressive. Actually, Midway's average minimum of 66F is below the 1981-2010 normal of 67F for July. The UofC also has an average low of 67F. This was a result of the drought and dry nature of that heat. Higher maximum temps lower minimum temps unlike humid Gulf Coast origin heat....


Midway airport's highest average minimum is 72.5F/22.5C recorded on two occasions both in July 1999, and 2012. Chicago/Northerly Island's at the Loop-lakefront had an average minimum in 2012 which was 75.0F/23.9C (possibly the highest minimum recorded at any Chicago station) would be just a run of the mill July/August minimum temp down in Houston.

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