Is this place Humid Subtropical or Oceanic? (climate, warmest, average)

[Ethereal]

This is Picton in NSW, Australia - It's a town 80km south of Sydney (its climate table link):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picton..._Wales#Climate

On the Koppen maps, it's under 'oceanic', but judging from its climate table it seems more like Cfa (btw, all of the areas south of Sydney's coast are 'oceanic', and those north of Sydney are 'humid subtropical'). Now would you say Picton is oceanic or humid subtropical?

[ChesterNZ]

Transitional. From a vegetation standpoint the winter lows are too cold (frequent frost) to support most subtropical species. But the mean temp of about 16 C / 60 F is definitely closing in on subtropical territory.

[pdw]

Definitely a humid subtropical climate.

[alex985]

I'd say Subtropical. The diurnal range is a bit too high and there's not enough precipitation days for it to really be oceanic.....

[Joe90]

I would say Subtropical because it doesn't have a cool summer, and winter while cool, isn't cold.

Originally Posted by alex985

I'd say Subtropical. The diurnal range is a bit too high and there's not enough precipitation days for it to really be oceanic.....

I don't think high diurnal range is a requirement for Humid Subtropical climates. Oceanic climates can have bigger ranges than Humid Subtropical climates.

Plenty of Oceanic climates get less rain days than 97

[alex985]

Originally Posted by Joe90

I would say Subtropical because it doesn't have a cool summer, and winter while cool, isn't cold.




I don't think high diurnal range is a requirement for Humid Subtropical climates. Oceanic climates can have bigger ranges than Humid Subtropical climates.

Plenty of Oceanic climates get less rain days than 97

I don't think it's a require for humid subtropical climates either, but oceanic climates in general don't really have high diurnal ranges.


Miami doesn't have a high diurnal range, so it wouldn't make sense if I were to say high diurnal ranges are a requirement for subtropical climates. I was kind of saying the high diurnal makes it "not oceanic" more than subtropical. I wouldn't really say it's subtropical myself to be honest.

[Joe90]

Originally Posted by alex985

I don't think it's a require for humid subtropical climates either, but oceanic climates in general don't really have high diurnal ranges.


Miami doesn't have a high diurnal range, so it wouldn't make sense if I were to say high diurnal ranges are a requirement for subtropical climates. I was kind of saying the high diurnal makes it "not oceanic" more than subtropical. I wouldn't really say it's subtropical myself to be honest.

I think Diurnal range is much more latitude related, than climate type related. Most Oceanic climates are in higher latitudes, which is the reason for lower ranges. The highest world wide diurnal range at sea level locations at my latitude, are actually in Oceanic climates.

[Dry Heat]

Another pointless thread, since the terms oceanic and humid subtropical don't mean anything per se.

I'll assume the OP used "oceanic" to mean cfb and "humid subtropical" to mean cfa under Köppen classification.
If this is the case then Picton is "humid subtropical" (aka cfa) since its warmest month is above the 22°C mean threshold, albeit slightly.

[Caleb Yeung]

Subtropical. Summers aren't cool enough.

[Adi from the Brunswicks]

Oceanic. Sub tropical summers usually have higher highs and lows. Most subtropical climates in the US average around 90 F as a high during summer, and lows are typically in the low-mid 70's. An average low of 59 F would be cherished in Atlanta and Tallahassee. What's your take Alex.