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I just noticed on the temperature thread, that the real feel for Phoenix is 8F warmer than the actual temperature, 59F/51F (15C/10C) at 10.45 am.
In comparison the real feel here is 8F cooler than the actual temperature 56F/64F (13C/17C) at 7.00 am.
It's not so much Phoenix I don't get, as sun obviously feels warmer. It's the downgrading for here I disagree with. There is no wind, light rain and a dew point of around 16C/61F, but it's supposed to feel a lot (8F/4C) colder because the sun isn't shining. I think that sounds too simplistic to be of any value.
Another thing I've noticed with real feel, is that the real feel temperature for here, doesn't exceed 6F/3C of the actual conditions even in the middle of summer, yet Phoenix in the middle of winter already has a 8F/4C at only 10.45 am. Does that sound right?
As well as daytime differences, the overnight low temperature for here will have a real feel 6F/3C cooler than the actual temperature, yet Phoenix will match it's actual temperature, even though both places are forecast for a clear night, and here has the higher dewpoint. Does that sound right?
Here in Phoenix, the temp is currently 67F at 3:38 PM. Real Feel temp is also 67. The angle of the sun most certainly plays a part in this.
As for cooler with dew point, I know that to be true. I moved from the damp midwest and the days the dew point in higher in the colder months feels colder. The dampness goes right through you. I think that is more accurate than wind chill alone.
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Here in Phoenix, the temp is currently 67F at 3:38 PM. Real Feel temp is also 67. The angle of the sun most certainly plays a part in this.
As for cooler with dew point, I know that to be true. I moved from the damp midwest and the days the dew point in higher in the colder months feels colder. The dampness goes right through you. I think that is more accurate than wind chill alone.
I think higher dewpoints at lower temperatures feeler warmer than lower dewpoints do. That's because the lower the dewpoint (at any temperature) the greater the heat potential between a body and the air.
Probably an easy way to think about this is drying washing outside. If it's sunny and 50F/10C, what's going dry the washing sooner... a 50F dewpoint, or a -2 dewpoint?
The real feel temp uses temperature, humidity, sunshine, wind speed, precipitation, and the other factors.
Judging by the time of the post, Phoenix around Lunchtime and you in the 7am morning it's almost certain it was the sun making it feel warmer in PHX. Not sure how your breeze was but maybe it came from the SW where the air is cooler or the snowcap mountains? I don't know the details from the time but I'm pretty sure the sun was a factor in PHX feeling warmer.
The real feel temp uses temperature, humidity, sunshine, wind speed, precipitation, and the other factors.
Judging by the time of the post, Phoenix around Lunchtime and you in the 7am morning it's almost certain it was the sun making it feel warmer in PHX. Not sure how your breeze was but maybe it came from the SW where the air is cooler or the snowcap mountains? I don't know the details from the time but I'm pretty sure the sun was a factor in PHX feeling warmer.
We had 17C/63F, with 94% RH, for a dewpoint of 61F/16C at 7.00am. There was no wind at all.
It was comfortable here in a sleeveless T-shirt, but according to real feel, it would have been more comfortable T-shirt weather in Phoenix at 50F/10C. I think that goes against common sense. I think the sun is overstated.
The overnight real feel will also be 8F/4C colder here, despite overnight dewpoints staying relatively high, whereas Phoenix will be the same as actual temperature, despite lower dewpoints.
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