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Old 12-31-2013, 05:03 PM
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Are there any truly continental climates in western or central Europe, where at least four months average >10°C and the coldest month has an average low <-3°C? Also, are there any climates in this region where at least one month has an average high <0, in addition to the aforementioned criteria? The oceanic moderation in much of Europe is astronomical. Could a mountain range theoretically block this moderation, the same way a rain shadow works?
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Old 01-01-2014, 01:22 AM
 
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Bolzano, Italy and Salzburg, Austria satisfy your first two requirements (I would classify them as central Europe). Some of the higher elevations around Bolzano may satisfy all three of your requirements but it's difficult to find stats.

In order to block oceanic air, you need several ranges of high mountains, and you need to be far enough from the lee of the last range to avoid foehn winds. In Canada, there are several N-S mountain ranges in BC but all of southern BC experiences some degree of Pacific influence. It's not until you get to the east of the Rockies that the Pacific influence practically disappears.

EDIT: Suwalki, Poland satisfies all three requirements. Wikipedia considers Poland as part of Central Europe. Miskolc in Hungary definitely satisfies all three requirements but I question the data - the winters look unusually cold in relation to the summers.

Salzburg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Bolzano - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suwa%C5%82ki#Climate

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miskolc#Climate


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Old 01-01-2014, 01:39 AM
 
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Warsaw, with many other parts of interior Poland meets barely the criteria.
Warsaw - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Though climatologically speaking I'd say that Poland is in Eastern Europe.

Prague and Munich are examples of true continental western climates:
Prague - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 01-01-2014, 06:56 AM
 
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no. Winters below -3C in the coldest months are only found in the high elevated alp villages. but then again, these climates barley have any summers to speak of.
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Old 01-01-2014, 07:05 AM
 
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The two first criteria are easy to meet in western Europe. I'm guessing the third one can be fulfilled at a higher elevation in Central Europe. You're talking about 10°C+ means in summer, not lows, right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouthe#Climate

Btw, there's no way Miskolc is that cold in January. An average February low more than 5°C warmer than the January one, a 12°C jump between February and March highs... looks bogus.
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Old 01-01-2014, 07:19 AM
 
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Old 01-01-2014, 07:20 AM
 
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Btw, there's no way Miskolc is that cold in January. An average February low more than 5°C warmer than the January one, a 12°C jump between February and March highs... looks bogus.
Absolutely bogus and vandalism. The averages are lower than here in winter... Miskolc has the reputation of being the coldest city in Hungary, but the averages should be something like 0C/-5C in January...
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Old 01-01-2014, 08:45 AM
 
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Absolutely bogus and vandalism. The averages are lower than here in winter... Miskolc has the reputation of being the coldest city in Hungary, but the averages should be something like 0C/-5C in January...
You're right. The link under the climate table (http://www.hko.gov.hk/wxinfo/climat/...miskolc_e.html) is broken but change the "html" in it to "htm" and it leads to the correct HKO page: Climatological Normals of Miskolc

The correct values from that HKO page for January are (max/mean/min): 0.0/-3.3/-6.3 C. So even though it's not as cold, it still satisfies OP's <-3C condition.
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Old 01-01-2014, 08:50 AM
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Sorry, I meant a daily mean of <-3, not an average low. Might be tricky to find such a climate in most of Europe. Would it be possible for a mod to edit my initial post, so it says this?

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Old 01-01-2014, 08:57 AM
 
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Sorry, I meant a daily mean of <-3, not an average low. Might be tricky to find such a climate in most of Europe.
In "western" Europe it's impossible. The west-east split goes (according to my criteria) about at the line of Vienna, Prague, Berlin, Baltic Sea and the Norwegian coast. East to the Scandinavian mountains to the Adriatic is eastern Europe.
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