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Old 11-30-2014, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Finland
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Well he can pick the 35.0C at Southsea or the 35.2C at Thorney Island then, both coastal stations. The next nearest station inland to Waterlooville is possibly Alice Holt Lodge which is a fair way inland,near Farnham...
Well, at least those are official readings, I think?. I only use the one official station that is near the city centre for my records. That's the honest thing to do. No neighbouring muncipalities, "metro area" stations or amateur ones.
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Old 11-30-2014, 12:21 PM
 
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38.3 in August 2003. We don't get very hot here - I've experienced 50+ in other places. This year, we didn't even break 32.
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Old 11-30-2014, 12:30 PM
 
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"metro area" stations or amateur ones.
Not for the US. The NWS operates many stations across the Chicago metro area that are official for that suburb and are quality controlled and usually operated by that town's water dept..... The accuracy of say O'Hare's data would be no different than the NWS station in my suburb..... Of course there are also unofficial supplemental stations too....


Check out all the official stations we have:

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Old 11-30-2014, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Arundel, FL
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99F (37C) in June 2009 and 26F (-3C) in December 2010
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Old 11-30-2014, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Finland
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Not for the US. The NWS operates many stations across the Chicago metro area that are official for that suburb and are quality controlled and usually operated by that town's water dept..... The accuracy of say O'Hare's data would be no different than the NWS station in my suburb..... Of course there are also unofficial supplemental stations too....


Check out all the official stations we have:
Your "metro areas" are so ridiculously big, we can't compare to those. What is it from the Lake Shore Drove to the Michigan border? 50 km?

Here are all the official stations in my "metro area", and I only use the data from Turku Artukainen, and from Turku Airport before the Artukainen station was opened:

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Old 11-30-2014, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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Official stations in Leeds: 0.

Well, there is Bramham Park, but not really Leeds.
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Old 11-30-2014, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Paris, Île-de-France, France
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Coldest : 8°F/-13°C (January 2014)
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Old 11-30-2014, 12:57 PM
 
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Your "metro areas" are so ridiculously big, we can't compare to those. What is it from the Lake Shore Drove to the Michigan border? 50 km?
Yes our metro areas are sprawled out, but it's not only about distance. There are NWS stations 5 miles away or so from ORD (Chicago/Executive airport in suburban Wheeling for example). Different municipalities keep there own records.

Even within the city of Chicago (city limits) there are four separate stations that are NWS quality controlled and monitored, which have official climate data at the NCDC. These are ORD, MDW, Northerly Island, and UofC. Each of these stations are between 15-25km apart from each other. ORD is 25km from MDW.

The Chicago National Weather Service Headquarters isn't even in the city of Chicago, but in suburban Romeoville which is 32km from MDW






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Here are all the official stations in my "metro area", and I only use the data from Turku Artukainen, and from Turku Airport before the Artukainen station was opened:
We just have a much larger network of weather stations monitored by the National Weather Service. Big government at work

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Old 11-30-2014, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Norway
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Old 11-30-2014, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Finland
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Yes our metro areas are sprawled out, but it's not only about distance. There are NWS stations 5 miles away or so from ORD (Chicago/Executive airport in suburban Wheeling for example). Different municipalities keep there own records.

Even within the city of Chicago (city limits) there are four separate stations that are NWS quality controlled and monitored, which have official climate data at the NCDC. These are ORD, MDW, Northerly Island, and UofC. Each of these stations are between 15-25km apart from each other. ORD is 25km from MDW.

The Chicago National Weather Service Headquarters isn't even in the city of Chicago, but in suburban Romeoville which is 32km from MDW

We just have a much larger network of weather stations monitored by the National Weather Service. Big government at work
While I understand the Chicago metropolitan area is very spread out and has 10 million people compared to our 260k people, the amount of weather stations can allow you to cherrypick the best that suits you. I'm not saying you've doing it, but it's possible. The city of Chicago spans for 227 sq mi over land, the City of Turku 95 sq mi, most of which is almost unhabited. The Turku urban area spans for 98 sq mi, while the Chicagoland area spans for 2,120 sq mi, and quite understandibly has a lot more weather stations.

Maybe I should include half of the stations including amateur ones in my region Finland Proper to my "metro area", as that would the same size as Chicagoland. Otherwise it puts me in a very unfavourable position.

Same with the London metropolitan area, they can choose from several stations spanning tens of miles in radii, while I rely on one single official station, Turku Artukainen.
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